Aerie, Nalia or Imoen?

Stoner Cold · Post by **Stoner Cold** » Sat Feb 17, 2001 1:29 pm

at the moment my party is Me(paladin), Minsc, Jahera, Imoen, Nalia and Aerie. i want to get rid of Nalia, imoen or aerie but i dont know who to get rid of. and who should i get afterwards?

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Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Sat Feb 17, 2001 1:54 pm

@Stoner Cold ..what are you looking for...(Fighter..Mage etc.)

The group you have is a very good one right now....the only weakness will be Aerie(because of the Exp. Cap.)

Quitch · Post by **Quitch** » Sat Feb 17, 2001 2:46 pm

Get rid of Nalia over Imoen. Imoen and Nalia are very similar, but Imoen is a better thief with a slight spell edge. Keep Aerie, those Cleric spells are handy.

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Stoner Cold · Post by **Stoner Cold** » Sat Feb 17, 2001 3:22 pm

hey, weasel, what happened to your quote?
anyway, im looking for another fight; i have too many spellcasters. only me and minsc can fight,all the others have too few HP or are just too weak(aerie)

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Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Sat Feb 17, 2001 3:52 pm

@ Stoner Cold: With you being a Paladin ..

Keldorn wouldn't be the best choose (I would still use him...my Paladin Dualwielded)

Anomen would work and help replace Aerie if you dumped her..(I would do his quest as soon as possible...to cut down on the bragging)

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Grimm Reaper · Post by **Grimm Reaper** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 9:06 am

Imoen is a better thief than Nalia, and the difference as a mage won't be much, unless you cleaned house in the city before hitting the asylum. The edge would be Imoen.
!!!Ignore these guys telling you to dump Aerie. If the choice were a mage of 12th level, or a priest of 10th level AND a mage of 10th level, which would be more useful?

Mythalos · Post by **Mythalos** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 9:53 am

Have you ever heard of one person being a virtuoso pianist and trumpeter? If you have then he/she is one in a billion.
The point you ask?......Pure classes will always be stronger at what they do than multi-classed characters. The exception would be dualed...then again your looking at a longer time to raise your levels(but the end payoff is tremendous).
I have been playing pen-and-paper AD&D for over 15 years. I know the inns and outs of the game, and I will assure you that BGII is very similar to the pen-and-paper version.
So GET RID OF AERIE!

akkar · Post by **akkar** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 10:54 am

I would disagree with the last post. I have usually played multiclass characters. The only limitation in D&D was the level cap of multiclass. But, that is not an issue here.

I am playing a F/M/T and I cannot compare to a single class. I am usually only 2 levels behind a one class, but I can cast all sort of magic turning, stone skin, and backstab my opponent for lots of damage. Then, I can finish him off in hand to hand.

I also like to role play, so I would get rid of Nalia. Keep Imowen for the sake of playing the storyline. I think Arie's constant spell casting is very powerful. She is always in the back just casting away.

I would replace Nalia with Keldorn. Put Gauntlets of Dex and Hill Giant, give him the +5, and he kicks butt.

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 11:25 am

I have stated my opinion...anybody have a problem with it ...take it to the Speak Your Mind forum.

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Dangerman · Post by **Dangerman** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 11:48 am

multi class characters are definitely more useful than single class. the virtuoso pianist and trumpeter example may be true, and perhaps it is correct that single class clerics are better than dual class clerics, but it is also true that the most effective fighting unit is one that consists of combined arms. this term is used in military to describe the useful mix of different tactical units - eg infantry and tanks with air support.
multi class characters are combined arms people - maybe not as strong in individual areas, but overall more useful because they can perform 2 or more tasks effectively. aeire is a good mage and a good cleric, performing both tasks to a good enough standard - thus saving you a space in your party for someone else.

(to answer your question, stoner cold, ditch nalia. imoen is better and aerie is too useful)

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Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 12:11 pm

Alright since it seems some people cannot read post before they post.

Originally posted by Stoner Cold:
at the moment my party is Me(paladin), Minsc, Jahera, Imoen, Nalia and Aerie. i want to get rid of Nalia, imoen or aerie but i dont know who to get rid of. and who should i get afterwards?

Originally posted by Stoner Cold:
hey, weasel, what happened to your quote?
anyway, im looking for another fight; i have too many spellcasters. only me and minsc can fight,all the others have too few HP or are just too weak(aerie)

Me(paladin). Fighter + Healer

Minsc. Fighter

Jahera. Spellcaster + Healer

Imoen. Spellcaster + Thief

Nalia. Spellcaster + Thief

Aerie. Spellcaster + Healer

So you all want him to drop Nalia for Anomen and end up having 3 to 4 healers. Do you all get beat up that bad???

Stoner Cold asked for advice on gettting another fighter and with his group being good and with him being a Paladin I gave him the best advice I could on getting a fighter.

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 12:50 pm

Chuck nalia out and experiment (i.e see what jan, haer'dails is like that way you can see what you like

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D-Man · Post by **D-Man** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 3:33 pm

Stoner, I have the exact SAME party setup as you do and the same dilemma. I also think that dunping Nalia for a fighter is the best choice. Perhaps another cleric might help, i.e., Anomen or Viconia (even though she's evil). Mazzy is supposedly a tank from what everyone says on here and then there is the obvious choice of Keldorn.

Saumerez · Post by **Saumerez** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 4:45 pm

I finished the game with this group

Me (skald)
Imoen
Jaheira
Minsc
Aerie
Anomen

I used jaheira as a fighter basically. Had her at AC -7 or so and the best weapons I could give her.

This time through I am playing a fighter. I can not believe how much easier it is going.

I still have Aerie though. She is the most versatile character available.

I agree with whoever said dump Nalia.

My new group is

Me (Fighter)
Minsc
Aerie
Nalia
Viconia
Jan

Giles the Sorcerer · Post by **Giles the Sorcerer** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 9:39 pm

Just to elaborate on combined arms, air, armour and infantry are seperate, it's not a bunch of people who attack in tanks, jump outa the tanks and act like infantry then go after the enemy with aircraaft,

it is a combination of air, armour and infantry, but each individual person does one of those things well, none of them mediocerly?

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 5:47 am

Originally posted by Stoner Cold:
hey, weasel, what happened to your quote?
anyway, im looking for another fight; i have too many spellcasters. only me and minsc can fight,all the others have too few HP or are just too weak(aerie)

IMHO, I think you should dump Nalia. Imoen and Aerie are more than capable of handling the mage duties. I'd recommend either Mazzy or Valygar. Mazzy would be good if you are sending all 3 tanks to fight. Valygar is good if you want to have one tank hold back as a mage guard (although Jaheira can also act as mage guard).

Keldorn would be an ok choice, but since you are playing a Paladin, it would be redundant. Besides, there's only 1 Holy Avenger in the game (legally any way).

Saigo · Post by **Saigo** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 6:14 am

Originally posted by Krom:

Keldorn would be an ok choice, but since you are playing a Paladin, it would be redundant. Besides, there's only 1 Holy Avenger in the game (legally any way). [/b]

He may be redundant, but he would make another great tank. And you wouldn't have to give away all the great two-handed swords.

I agree that you should keep Aerie, though. You'll never be able to use all the spells she can cast, and, outfitted properly, she can make a pretty good fighter, too.

TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 8:14 am

u really have to dump nalia,
imoen and aerie are much better.
search for a fighter mazzy or keldorn are good
or a mage Edwin he is very good !!!

Slyweasel · Post by **Slyweasel** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 8:21 am

I still say Stoner Cold doesn't need 3 healers redundant what is three healers.

Veldrik · Post by **Veldrik** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 12:16 pm

Originally posted by Weasel:
@Stoner Cold ..what are you looking for...(Fighter..Mage etc.)

The group you have is a very good one right now....the only weakness will be Aerie(because of the Exp. Cap.)

You have the same party layout as me (I use Aerie as a tank though, atleast with crushing weapons). I just removed the experiance point cap though using some stuff from [url="http://www.teambg.com"]www.teambg.com[/url] and then I installed the level 50 rules. After installing it I had gathered enough experince for one to two level raises for each of my charcters (all bar imoen were maxed out for two chapters)

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