What is your religion?

scully1 · Post by **scully1** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 3:49 pm

Wow. Lots of "crap" going on here. The Bible is "crap". Worship is "crap". What I'd like to know is, how can people post something like "Religion is crap. No offense to religious people." And these are the same people who claim that religion itself is illogical

Also: Don't you realize that in defining the beliefs of others as "crap", you are doing exactly the same thing that you accuse organized religion (especially Christianity) of doing? Namely, being bigoted and intolerant?

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 3:56 pm

You have just been CORRECTED! LONER IS THE LAW!!!

Loner has a point, to denounce someone elses beliefs with no actual solid reasons does seem illogical and bigoted.

scully1 · Post by **scully1** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 4:12 pm

Just bringing up a few points...

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 4:22 pm

Originally posted by loner72:
Just bringing up a few points...

And you gain my respect for their accuracy

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 4:30 pm

Originally posted by loner72:
@Sleep:

@DP -- Is Half & Half a tolerated doctrine?

Half and Half is allowed. But, no Holy water, only tonic water. Could someone bring some limes too.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 4:53 pm

*Hands Loner a sheriffs Badge*

For the new law in SYM...

scully1 · Post by **scully1** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 4:55 pm

Originally posted by Aegis:
*Hands Loner a sheriffs Badge*

For the new law in SYM...

Why am I getting deja vu??...

fable · Post by **fable** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 5:04 pm

Originally posted by loner72:
Wow. Lots of "crap" going on here. The Bible is "crap". Worship is "crap". What I'd like to know is, how can people post something like "Religion is crap. No offense to religious people." And these are the same people who claim that religion itself is illogical

@Loner, I suspect some people are simply reacting to having been told (especially if they live in the US) that Christianity is automatically patriotic, pro-life, pro-Republican Party, anti-taxes, anti-foreign policy, belongs everywhere, biblically literalist, etc.

There is something about the extremely conservative but powerful Christian religious fringe in the US that sets my scalp crawling, frankly. I have a distinct feeling that if any of these so-called Christians had been there when Abraham was about to sacrifice his first-born, they would have been shouting through megaphones to go ahead with the deed and forget the interfering metaphysical aberration that was trying to stop it.

scully1 · Post by **scully1** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 5:07 pm

@Fable: "So-called" being the operative term...

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 5:42 pm

There is something about the extremely conservative but powerful Christian religious fringe in the US that sets my scalp crawling, frankly. (I think you should teach your scalp to walk. Then it won't get soo dirty.

) I have a distinct feeling that if any of these so-called Christians had been there when Abraham was about to sacrifice his first-born, (But, Abraham didn't kill his first born, did he? His son also went along with him, he could of just said "forget you old man. I'm going to knock me up some Cannanite women.") they would have been shouting through megaphones to go ahead with the deed and forget the interfering metaphysical aberration that was trying to stop it.

I look at it this way, what the frig are you arguing about? Who cares what religon we are. Just as we can be friends, and don't push your views.

Now have a Guinness.

[ 08-16-2001: Message edited by: Darkpoet ]

EMINEM · Post by **EMINEM** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 6:03 pm

Christ-centered Christianity.

average joe · Post by **average joe** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 6:08 pm

Originally posted by EMINEM:
Christ-centered Christianity.

Unfortunately, too many "Christians" forget this...

or never understood it in the first place

[ 08-16-2001: Message edited by: average joe ]

EMINEM · Post by **EMINEM** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 6:27 pm

Originally posted by Darkpoet:

I look at it this way, what the frig are you arguing about? Who cares what religon we are. Just as we can be friends, and don't push your views.

Now have a Guinness.

[ 08-16-2001: Message edited by: Darkpoet ]

Sometimes, I wish I didn't have to. But I don't have that choice. Matthew 28:18-20 commands that I must "push" my view on others in the hope that some will listen.

ThorinOakensfield · Post by **ThorinOakensfield** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 6:42 pm

Eep don't want to get thrown into jail for being an outlaw. Sherrif loner's word is the law. Am i free now?

fable · Post by **fable** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 7:58 pm

Originally posted by EMINEM:

Sometimes, I wish I didn't have to. But I don't have that choice. Matthew 28:18-20 commands that I must "push" my view on others in the hope that some will listen.

But @Eminem, nobody says you have to follow Matthew 28:18-20. Besides, there's the matter of commonsense: a person who pushes it all the time isn't a propagandist for The Cause (any Cause) but just a bloody bore. You can always turn off the paladin light, and just have fun.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 8:39 pm

Can we please keep the philisophical religion debates to the other thread...

average joe · Post by **average joe** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 11:23 pm

I don't think "pushing" beliefs will further any cause, therefore i don't. Telling others who wish to listen is one thing, forcing it on those who have no desire to hear is another.

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 1:59 am

Originally posted by Darkpoet:
I think, I will start my own Religon. It is of Irish descent. It's the Religon of Guinness. It will not cost you anything, but you do have to bring your Guinness. The Church of Guinness will have plenty of bathrooms too.

Oh mighty Bishop of the blackstuff, I have found my true calling

Quark · Post by **Quark** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 5:07 am

I am an atheist, but not for stupid reasons like alot of people.

I won't go into it now, but I worked my ass off this year in philosophy class (being one of two atheists in a 13 person class) working 'proofs' for my belief. I say 'proofs' in quotes because there is no proof one way or the other. On the exam for that chapter, I worked forever. The day we're getting it back I'm worried as hell, because even though my teacher is open minded, he is religious. He hands it back to me: 100%. "That's the best essay I've ever read on this issue." So, needless to say, In my heart I have proven my religion to myself.

I'll end with approximately how my essay ended:

In the end, it all comes down to a matter of sense. To some people, denying god would make no sense whatsoever. To me, believing something exists when I see no evidence towards it makes my scientific mind cringe. For all people, it should just come down to what makes sense to them.

rapier · Post by **rapier** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 5:17 am

Atheist.
God(or anything "greater" than mankind...satanism is on the rise in Germany...)is for people who can't accept reality...(IMHO, of course...)