Planecrash in US

nael · Post by **nael** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:37 pm

@thorin - my prayers are with you and yoru friends. and i am happy for you that your dad is okay.

Shadow Sandrock · Post by **Shadow Sandrock** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:38 pm

Whoever did this should be dragged out to the street and shot... in the leg... several times... then the arms... and have his weenie shot off and then have everyone run around and beat him up!!

Ok too gory

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:38 pm

Originally posted by Xandax:
According to one of the various newssites I have running currently, Osama bin Laden had warned the US 3 weeks ago, that he and his followers would launch an attakc of unseen proportion against the US.

He did, according to a source at Reuter's he has some contact with, but the problem is that bin Laden has been saying this kind of things many times before and nothing has happened, so it's difficult to value whether his claimes 3 weeks ago are valid in this situation or not.

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:38 pm

Posted by Nordom -

'In the city of God there will be a great thunder, two big brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb. The third big war will begin when the city is burning

Welcome to the board and on such a sorry day.

Unfortunately a lot of Nostradamus is too open to interpretation - he apparently predicted Margaret Thatcher becoming PM of Great Britain...

Scary association though...

Posted by SS -

I'm in Arizona, but this still has me scared. My parents are at the VA hospital(dad happened to have an appointment there today...) and a place like that, even though it is in Tuscon, Arizona could very easily be targetted by these kinds of Terrorist attacks.

My God! the very thought of targetting hospitals

I would not put it below them now...

Posted by Shadow -

>_<!!!!! Did you see them land too? Yowch! I am sorry you had to witness that!

No you did not see them land. These people were JUMPING!! way before the towers went down. It is SO tragic...

What no-one has discussed on the news are the casualties on the ground...these are massively built up areas...the speculation on the total is running into tens of thousands...

Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:41 pm

Thorin, I am so sorry.

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:42 pm

I've just seen this two things spring to mind
WWIII and if they are willing to give their lives to put through their messege(whatever the phsycos messege is) dieing isn't going to stop all of them, more of the cult if their smart as it seems(make them come to one place blow that up) they won't let all of them get caught.
And why did the twin towers calapse most the damage was near the top did it shake it like and earth quake would? there has to have been a bomb.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:44 pm

Originally posted by Yshania:
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What no-one has discussed on the news are the casualties on the ground...these are massively built up areas...the speculation on the total is running into tens of thousands...

That is the number I've heard also - and this is in NY without the passengeres on the planes.
But they fear it is much higher, because nobody knows how many people were on the top floors of the WTC-buildings.
Also after the first plane had hit, the people in tower 2 were told to stay inside the tower because they were safe in there.

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:44 pm

Posted by Xandax -

Yeah - mine to, but there is an awful long way from Denmark to US - especially now.
I don't think even blodplasma would be able to cross the border for the next couple of days.
I think they will redirect all blood inside the states to NY.

Doh! sorry

- I forgot - we are in the same position.

They are looking for ALL US residents who can to donate...

It is hard to comprehend the casualty list...and all the hospitals (in that what? 300 mile radius?) are so desperate.

These casualties cannot physically travel further than that...

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:45 pm

It's very hard to convey emotions like this in words.....I hope that we all get through this ok.....my feelings go out to those personally involved......Thorin I'm sorry.

Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:46 pm

Originally posted by Yshania:
If they can get it there they can have mine for sure...

Jesus - how much of the screening process will be compromised? (just a thought - nothing peronal implied!)

Probably the bood supply of the US will be depleated in the comming weeks, and by that time international supplies may be used to re-stock at that time. Pure conjecture on my part, though.

I wouldn't expect the screening process to be altered at all. Pure, clean blood will surely be available, but our stocks will be depleted. I would assume that blood given now will be used to re-stock later.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:46 pm

Originally posted by C Elegans:
He did, according to a source at Reuter's he has some contact with, but the problem is that bin Laden has been saying this kind of things many times before and nothing has happened, so it's difficult to value whether his claimes 3 weeks ago are valid in this situation or not.

"The boy who cried wolf" springs to mind

@Craig: The explosion from the planes would have shaken the foundation of the towers.
Also when the top of the buildings collapses, it took more of the lower floors with it.
EDIT: also the following fire would have weakend the foundation significantly.

[ 09-11-2001: Message edited by: Xandax ]

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:48 pm

Posted by Xandax -

That is the number I've heard also - and this is in NY without the passengeres on the planes.
But they fear it is much higher, because nobody knows how many people were on the top floors of the WTC-buildings.
Also after the first plane had hit, the people in tower 2 were told to stay inside the tower because they were safe in there.

That is a tragic fact. The emergency services at the time were advised against entering. A vast amount of the people were above the floors the planes hit...

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:51 pm

What i want to no is WHO THE ****ING HELL ARE THEY

[ 09-11-2001: Message edited by: craig ]

Vivien · Post by **Vivien** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:53 pm

*hug to all*

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:53 pm

Economical effects of this action is already visible.
The price of oil has increased 4$ for a barrel(sp?) to over 30$.
The OPEC countries have said that they will secure the supply, so a shortage will not be likely.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:54 pm

Originally posted by Yshania:
What no-one has discussed on the news are the casualties on the ground...these are massively built up areas...the speculation on the total is running into tens of thousands...

There will probably be several hours until any official information is released...It must have been a vast number of killed and injured in such a dense area...

Like you and Xan I wish there was something I could do, but I can't even donate blood - to low body weight...

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:54 pm

OPEC?

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:54 pm

Posted by CE -

I don't really know what to say, words feel so cheap when something as disastrous as this happens

But we are here on this board for each other. Despite the spamming and flaming we have friends here...

Posted by Gwally -

Probably the bood supply of the US will be depleated in the comming weeks, and by that time international supplies may be used to re-stock at that time. Pure conjecture on my part, though.

Then a couple of pints of A+ are coming that way...

nael · Post by **nael** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:55 pm

why would oil prices be effected?
i can understand if several markets fall dramtically, but oil should be uneffected. i heard that abotu the price raising as well, i just don't think it makes sense.
but then again, nothign has made sense today

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:56 pm

i would but im under aged