I happen to watch National Geographic Channel few days ago, it's about Bio Weapon technology. The show really bothers my mind, since it shows how bio weapon can wipe out a city in relatively short time and how it can contaminate the area for several generations.
There's one point in the show showing a country (sorry i'm not gonna say which one) is using POW for their guinea pig.
It's just not my kind of stuff, so does A-bomb (but no it the game ). I prefer to see good old days where strategy plays the major role.
i really don't have a moral problem with weapons of mass destruction in themsleves, but i do have a problem with terrorism, a small group of pathetic simpletons bitter at the world for their inferiorities. terrorism is pure cowardice and weapons of mass destruction in their hands is the true threat. i believe that war is waged between two countries, not just the armies of those countries. if whole cities are decimated during war, it is simply a tragedy of war that has plagued mankind for centuries. our stockpiles and our anxiety of being killed ourselves keeps wars to a minimum, and especially limits the use of weapons of mass destruction, whether they be chemical, biological, or nuclear. the threat of these weapons is so real that it is impossible to calculate just how many major incidents have been avoided because both parties didn't want to die.
and in all honesty, there are just WAY too many people on this planet. a few billion less would be great.
I would be a serial killer if i didn't have such a strong distaste for manual labor
I agree on that one, sometimes terrorist tend to hijack planes and demanding things. It's purely coward, but for their point of view they said it's how to make the world know their existance.
For me, anything which involve innocent people are not tolerable.
PS. : it's true that we're over populated these days. Anyone know how's the plan on space colony building ?
Yeah, I'm no bleeding heart, but to say that a couple billion people less on the planet wouldn't be a big loss has got to be as stupid a statement as any I've ever heard. Certainly no critical thinking went into that post.
I see the right, and I approve it too; condemn the wrong and yet the wrong pursue.
we are nearing 7 billion people, the population is growing at an exponential rate, the earth cannot sustain this growth. and i for one, would much rather see a landscape filled with a variety of flora and fauna, then a bunch of half brained humans who do nothing but pollute my sight and hearing. my life would not be effected in the least if a couple billion people disapeared. obvioiusly if they died then the whole problem of bacteria from the rotting corpses would pose a health threat, so they would have to simply disappear. but to say that a huge portion of th epopulation disappearing would nto be beneficial to not only the planet but all of mankind shows your (Hermetic) extreme lack of understandign of the issue at hand. there is no way to analyze the data to show that we are not overpopulated, and the majority of people aren't worth the space they are takign up.
I would be a serial killer if i didn't have such a strong distaste for manual labor
Originally posted by Anatres:
[QB]<snip>Until we can accomplish interstellar travel and explore for earth-like planets we're pretty much stuck here.<snip>
why is the music from star trek going through my head
IMHO mass destruction warfare won't ever come about( and if it does, there won't be anything left ). everyone in the world knows if one nuclear missile flies, the world is finished(because of retaliation). the ****roaches will rule the world.
hey ya'll look! i got censored for saying c0ckroach.
Terrorists are just like bullies. Instead of throwing stones at kids they throw grenades. It's not good when you see people complain about terrorists because this is exactly what the terrorists want. They want a profile.
The thing with wars is that most of the time it's because of past greivances World War 2 for example. The thing thats scary is that people are actually willing to let soldiers run onto a battlefield with the weapons we have today. We talk about us being civilized but relatively we are just as bad if not worse as people alive millions of years ago in prehistoric times. We allowed ourselves to develop weapons that if they do no cause immediate death they cause radiation sickness and the like. Is disgusts me that people can allow each other to push a button to kill millions of people. It's just wrong. With reference to the too many people on the planet there is actually too many. The planet Earth is about 70% water and a lot of other land is inhospitable to live in (Antarctic etc). The fact is that the development of the human race evolving came to fast over the development of technology. We can build on mountainsides, and slightly under water but we cannot access the stars were most land is. Until people realise that there is too many people on this planet and they understand technology and geography of this planet then we will continue to rise in population and continue to fight for space to live in.
Which continues my point on wars. A lot of wars are also caused by territory. Hitler wanted Lebensraum or living space and divided to invade other countries because they lost territory in WW1. I am not blaming Germans for this but I believe that The Allies were also at fault for the incredibly harsh sanctions in the Treaty of Versailles.
i couldn't agree more on the Treaty of Versailles issue. that's why it was one of the funniest moments in history when Hitler made the French sign their surrender on the same train car that the Treaty of Versailles was signed on. oh, i love irony.
I would be a serial killer if i didn't have such a strong distaste for manual labor
The annoying thing is that the there is still hatred towards the German people 6o years on. It's pointless blaming Germans now as it was only there ancestors. I know lots of German people and they cannot believe that one of their countrymen did this. It's unfair and only helps to stir more hatred for people.
bio weapons,hydrogen bombs, atomic bombs
war is fought now for land, most wars now have no meaning except for the fact so they can own land, it seems world domanation is always wanted by someone through out the ages
war is essential for peace, odd fact isnt it?
Now non war attacks such as terriosm isnt that new, it all started back in my own country america during the revoulnatry war, england when at war had established war rules, while the u.s people hit and run, now most people dont consider that terroism since war is on the brink, well our example spread to th french, and the rise of napelon.
its a three step process
1.terriosits
2.war
3.peace
rinse and repeat(j/k)
traditonally wars were fought over food and so they could surrvive,
bio weapons and others are just part of the malicious parts of the society now and days
like weasel said its sad world we live in sometimes....
but with over population ever read rainbow 6?
* WAR! UUH! good God ya'll! What is it good for? absolutly nothin!*
*you dropped the bomb on me, baby*
i don't hate the germans, hell, i don't hate anyone.
are chemical weapons considered bio-warfare?
I am against chemical weapons. i mean really, don't drop some sh1t on me that will give me a terrible twitch the rest of my life!. that's just not right!
Originally posted by Anatres:
<STRONG><snip>Until we can accomplish interstellar travel and explore for earth-like planets we're pretty much stuck here. Mars? No water. Venus? Way too inhospitable to our species.
The Moon? No air and no water. No, we need to find a more equitable way to live here, at least for the next few generations.</STRONG>
Well actually I seem to recall reading that their is/should? be enough permafrost(sp?) on Mars to be able to surstain life for a colony (of wich size I know not) also there are other possibilities for colonies in Sol-system, for instance one of Jupiters moons is a posible location (can't remember if it is Io or Europa).
But you can also make space colonies not based on planets and such.
But you are right, that interstella travel is a must for real expansion, but if and how that will be discovered is still somewhat of a mysteri (wormholes? - near light speed? - warptechnology (yeah - almost like Star Trek )
Is there such a thing as wormholes? If of course there were then expansion would be easy. Do you think it would turn into an Alpha Centauri (After the game)?
If they are real?? - well that is still not proven completely.
Some scienties have tried to prove the existens of wormholes, but their research (wich is proving promosing) only talks about very very very very small holes open for a very very very very short time, so if such holes were to exits then you also need to invent something that would make such holes big enough to travel through plus the need to be made stabile.
I don't know if I think such holes will ever be accesiable to travel through, I think it sounds utopic, but still one can hope.
@nael: You posted something to the effect of, "let a few billion die; most of them are worthless." I'm paraphrasing, but that's the essence.
Let's go with it!
If you'd like to see the 'worthless' killed off, let's decide just who is going to be offed in our little Gedankenexperiment.
1. Who is worth keeping alive?
Don't assume that you're on the list, mate.
I'd list farmers at the top of the list. Bar none. Farmers produce food. We need food to live.
2. Who specifically isn't worth keeping alive?
I'll vote for- those who consume far in excess of what they produce.
3. Who snuffs it?
So far, I'm leaning towards people in big, urban cities. No direct worth, polluting like mad, and so on.
4. (conclusion)
Cluster-bomb the industrial cities if you want to do the planet some good.
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Don't take any of this seriously, Nael, it's not an invite to a rooftop. Also, building neutron bombs is bad.
). I prefer to see good old days where strategy plays the major role.
