Bio Weapons (serious topic, please no spam)

The Outsider · Post by **The Outsider** » Sat Jun 09, 2001 5:42 pm

@Nippy:

Or, to put it another way: we abdicate our responsibilities, hoping against the percentage that, somehow, it'll all turn out okay. Very mature species, we are. We're like a flock of moths that want to be provided with fire-retardant gels, rather than stop flying into fire.

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:56 am

Ha ha! good way to put The Outsider! It's true though isn't it. The people who sell/take drugs know the punishments, pain etc but they still do it! As a society I think we fail sometimes I'm 16 yet I can buy beer in the UK (you have to be 18). You go out to America you have to be 21. Yet I still do it because I like the odd beer. I see mates that get slaughtered and I pity them, they haven't be taught any better. A lot of the time we get told one thing then get shown another. Does anyone think that we are both contradictory and ignorant of what goes on around us? Tony Blair (new UK PM) has given himself a 40% pay rise to £116,000. Yet he sas that you can live on less than that a year and then he passes the buck and says I didn't mean to say it like that. As a society we just don't learn!

The Outsider · Post by **The Outsider** » Tue Jun 12, 2001 4:46 pm

@Nippy: Odd, we've just had our leaders "vote" themselves a whopping pay raise as well. Beautiful. Meanwhile, I'm never going to live above the poverty line in my life. One of my favorite "if only I was head fascist" ideas is to make all public servants ride public transportation for six months. And, that the MPs in session would have to live in the sleaziest parts of their ridings. I think that that would give them a bit of an incentive to provide for the people that need it most.

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 2:04 am

I say we make them ride where the chewing gum is located! But seriously one of the UK ministers promoted the use of public transport only to ride in his Jag for about 200 yards! How hypocritical is that!

The Outsider · Post by **The Outsider** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 7:01 pm

I think it would be great if public servants were forced to live like their least well-off subjects. This is an expansion on an idea I posted earlier this thread.

Think about it: MPs whose vote influences environmental policy living in mining towns, finance ministers forced to live on the poverty line, judges forced into ghettoes.

Nobody'd go for it. "Public service" is much more concerned with getting into refined social circles. There's a massive drive to use influence to benefit one's friends- our PM talked the bank into giving a loan to a friend of his a while back. This is part of human nature. There's a great Yiddish saying: "When you deal in honey, you get a lick".

What I propose is to shift the public servants' social circle to be made up of people who could benefit more from this kind of nepotism.