Well the problem isn't that "big" but i dont know what to do so a ask here.
It was some time ago that i played Bg2 so I was going to install it. Chose full install and after the first CD was ready i put in the 2 and waited suddenly i stope and i fought what the F***!! i took out the cd and there it was a big scratch on the text side (the one with the picture).
I am despret i realy wants to play is ther any other way exept buying a new copy of the game. I be happy if someone told me somthing els.
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If the scratch is on the side with the picture, it presumably shouldn't affect running. It's the data side that you need to worry about.
Still, for what it's worth, give a call to Interplay tech support. I'm sure they're a lot more expert than we are about such matters. After all, they're paid for their opinions.
Still, for what it's worth, give a call to Interplay tech support. I'm sure they're a lot more expert than we are about such matters. After all, they're paid for their opinions.
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well it seems like BGII shouldnt have been released if theire so many darn , problems
an example , i cant connect to a multi player game over the internet you using my lannetwork connection , it really suks , i dont why i cant connect to a Inet game but i know that i can connect to Halflife counter-strike games on the Inet true min lannetwork connection , now i like find out why i can connect to BGII - SoA games over the Inet , any one that can help please do so !!!!
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an example , i cant connect to a multi player game over the internet you using my lannetwork connection , it really suks , i dont why i cant connect to a Inet game but i know that i can connect to Halflife counter-strike games on the Inet true min lannetwork connection , now i like find out why i can connect to BGII - SoA games over the Inet , any one that can help please do so !!!!
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Are you using a firewall?Originally posted by -=FaZeR=-:
<STRONG>well it seems like BGII shouldnt have been released if theire so many darn , problems
an example , i cant connect to a multi player game over the internet you using my lannetwork connection , it really suks , i dont why i cant connect to a Inet game but i know that i can connect to Halflife counter-strike games on the Inet true min lannetwork connection , now i like find out why i can connect to BGII - SoA games over the Inet , any one that can help please do so !!!!
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@fable...i'm soz but i think that is an incorrect statement...the majority of modern cd-rom devices read the cd from the top...they read them through the the pictures and thus a scratch in the top can/will be much more destructive. This comes from someone (a professional) who has repair hundreds of my CD's...also you can try burning the disc to a new copy, this will often (if you have good software) repair the information on the disc. And as i mentioned there are peeps who can repair cd-rom and dvd-rom discs.Originally posted by fable:
<STRONG>If the scratch is on the side with the picture, it presumably shouldn't affect running. It's the data side that you need to worry about.</STRONG>
@Fazer...their are less "bugs" with BG then with HL...i have experience with both. I have 56k
but have never had a prob with HL or BG online, other than my ping reets. I would look into something other than the BG software as being the prob...the firewall thingy could be it...from what i understand it can cause probs.FudD, what the heck are you talking about?? CD's getting read from the top, through the label?? If I wasn't so busy as I am, I'd consider it even funny, but I am very busy..
CD's are NOT read from the top through the label. They cannot be read through the label. Go home and open your CD rom and peek into it, and then make a mental note as to where the lens of the "reader" is located. To your surprize, or horror, you will notice that it's on the "bottom" side of the CD, and I have yet to see a CD which has labels on both sides. And your "CD repairer professional" should have probably stayed as a footwear repairer and not mess in the IT world..
CD's are NOT read from the top through the label. They cannot be read through the label. Go home and open your CD rom and peek into it, and then make a mental note as to where the lens of the "reader" is located. To your surprize, or horror, you will notice that it's on the "bottom" side of the CD, and I have yet to see a CD which has labels on both sides. And your "CD repairer professional" should have probably stayed as a footwear repairer and not mess in the IT world..
whalior i pmed you my response earlier since forum was down....
like i said....i was told this by a guy who has fixxed tons of my cd's....now i do know my old SONY disc changer reads them from the bottem....so does my discman....didnt pay attention last time i had my comp appart....but i will say this...the most damaged CD's i have (that couldn't be repaired) are scratched badly on top....but when I are paying someone to do a job and they do a good job, I don't usually question them....even if what they say sounds far fetched. now even if ALL are read from the bottem i still feel that a scratch in the top will cause probs...perhaps i should test this so i know if i'm giving my $ to an idiot who does a good job instead of a "professional" who does a good job...
btw....it is interesting that only fable and myself have tried to help Blademaster
like i said....i was told this by a guy who has fixxed tons of my cd's....now i do know my old SONY disc changer reads them from the bottem....so does my discman....didnt pay attention last time i had my comp appart....but i will say this...the most damaged CD's i have (that couldn't be repaired) are scratched badly on top....but when I are paying someone to do a job and they do a good job, I don't usually question them....even if what they say sounds far fetched. now even if ALL are read from the bottem i still feel that a scratch in the top will cause probs...perhaps i should test this so i know if i'm giving my $ to an idiot who does a good job instead of a "professional" who does a good job...
btw....it is interesting that only fable and myself have tried to help Blademaster
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Now, the CD's are read from the "bottom" and not from the top. So far there has been no changes to that system and doubt there will ever be, with the conventional CD's. So a scratch on "top" of the CD does not mess the data, providing it's a simplt scratch which only affected the ink layer, the label.
Other then that, a deep scratch on the top of the CD can and will affect the CD. CD is made in many layers and for example, the scratch on the upper layer can expose the "metal" layer of the CD and thus give room to the corrosion of that metal layer. It's pretty common thingie on the low quality CD's, they are not so "airtight" as they should be. Heck, many Interplay CD's even have been ruined like this.
Scratch, amongst the other things, also unbalances the CD. Interplay CD's are rather unbalanced anyway. BG2 CD's are somewhat better, but all who have played BG1 will know the awful rattle coming from CD-ROM when using BG1 CD's - these were/are super unbalanced! Problem here is again that many CD-ROM makers also tend to go the 'cheap' way and put into their 'readers' the plastic lenses instead of glass lenses. The "rattling" CD will cause heating of the drive much faster, and when the drive heats, the plastic lens will distort and that causes the erroneous data reading from the CD. The beam is not focussed anymore and all kind of weird things start. Once the drive cools down, it will be OK again..
And few more thingies, but it's not important currently. So while the data is read from the "bottom" of the CD, the scratch on "top" is no way a good thing. If your friend fixes these, hope he then balances the CD's so that they wont "rattle" in the drive. As for the scratch made to the CD by the CD-ROM drive, then frankly I hear this first time. Cannot tell what may have caused this, but I would be careful with the CD's in that drive and when possible, would verify it. In any case, you can try to use that CD. Despite the scratch, it can be quite readable since the scratch may be just in the ink layer. If you can browse the contents of the CD in the Windows Explorer and read the files from CD, and copy off of it from any folder, then it's readable and will work. If the CD is unreadable (you cannot see the contents in the Windows Explorer, you cannot open any file there just to view in it, or copy anything random off of it), then sadly it's busted and only way to get it to work is to get a new CD. And definately check the CD-ROM drive. It may be a mechanical issue. Or some child dropped some cookie crumbs into the CD-ROM when it was opened Hey, you cannot even imagine what people all do with CD-ROM's. There's a joke on it, but it's also truth - some total newbies with PC HAVE used the CD-ROM as a coffee cup holder. I used to work in PC hardware company in customer support and boy oh boy, what all I have heard people do...
Now, the CD's are read from the "bottom" and not from the top. So far there has been no changes to that system and doubt there will ever be, with the conventional CD's. So a scratch on "top" of the CD does not mess the data, providing it's a simplt scratch which only affected the ink layer, the label.
Other then that, a deep scratch on the top of the CD can and will affect the CD. CD is made in many layers and for example, the scratch on the upper layer can expose the "metal" layer of the CD and thus give room to the corrosion of that metal layer. It's pretty common thingie on the low quality CD's, they are not so "airtight" as they should be. Heck, many Interplay CD's even have been ruined like this.
Scratch, amongst the other things, also unbalances the CD. Interplay CD's are rather unbalanced anyway. BG2 CD's are somewhat better, but all who have played BG1 will know the awful rattle coming from CD-ROM when using BG1 CD's - these were/are super unbalanced! Problem here is again that many CD-ROM makers also tend to go the 'cheap' way and put into their 'readers' the plastic lenses instead of glass lenses. The "rattling" CD will cause heating of the drive much faster, and when the drive heats, the plastic lens will distort and that causes the erroneous data reading from the CD. The beam is not focussed anymore and all kind of weird things start. Once the drive cools down, it will be OK again..
And few more thingies, but it's not important currently. So while the data is read from the "bottom" of the CD, the scratch on "top" is no way a good thing. If your friend fixes these, hope he then balances the CD's so that they wont "rattle" in the drive. As for the scratch made to the CD by the CD-ROM drive, then frankly I hear this first time. Cannot tell what may have caused this, but I would be careful with the CD's in that drive and when possible, would verify it. In any case, you can try to use that CD. Despite the scratch, it can be quite readable since the scratch may be just in the ink layer. If you can browse the contents of the CD in the Windows Explorer and read the files from CD, and copy off of it from any folder, then it's readable and will work. If the CD is unreadable (you cannot see the contents in the Windows Explorer, you cannot open any file there just to view in it, or copy anything random off of it), then sadly it's busted and only way to get it to work is to get a new CD. And definately check the CD-ROM drive. It may be a mechanical issue. Or some child dropped some cookie crumbs into the CD-ROM when it was opened
Hey, you cannot even imagine what people all do with CD-ROM's. There's a joke on it, but it's also truth - some total newbies with PC HAVE used the CD-ROM as a coffee cup holder. I used to work in PC hardware company in customer support and boy oh boy, what all I have heard people do...