When should I go to Ulgoth's Beard

zeyk · Post by **zeyk** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 6:11 am

I just saved the dukes in the palace and was teleported to the thieves guild. Should I go to Ulgoth's Beard now, or will I be able to do so later? It seems unnatural that I would break pursuit of Sarevok at this point since I'm hot on his heels. But I don't want to miss out on the expansion areas.

Cheers,

Zeyk

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 6:19 am

If you don't go now, you're pursuit will soon end by facing Sarevok. After that youwill have to kill Sarevok and import your characters into ToSC, so you may as well break off now.

zeyk · Post by **zeyk** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 6:36 am

Thanks! I'll have to allow Sarevok to live a little longer.

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 10:27 am

Take your time; he's not going anywhere.

Worldfrog · Post by **Worldfrog** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 11:21 am

If and when you play again, try going to Ulgoth's Beard before you complete everything in Baldur's Gate city. Durlag's Tower is a monster, but it's got the best treasures in the whole game and turns the city into practically a cakewalk.

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 1:32 pm

The city is a cakewalk. At least, if you've cleared out all the wilderness areas.

Misfit · Post by **Misfit** » Tue Aug 21, 2001 4:46 pm

Absolutely, best way to play Baldurs Gate is probably starting alone or with just one or two companions, clearing out the wildernes Areas. As soon as you get to decent levels you can take up another companion and another one and so on....they are quite low with their experience, but that won't matter much.

I started out with only my fighter/cleric and Imoen did lots in the wilderness and finished the nashkell mines. I then went on and got Dynaheir and soon after Minsc. The story went on...in cloakwood forest I got Coran and after finishing that and the rest of the wilderness picked up Ajantis. Now this party is pretty good(not the strongest probably) but not much trouble, nor reloading overall.

One question I've got, since it is quite some time since I first finished Baldurs Gate and the Tales expansion....I installed Totsc while I was already under way with this party...now....Ulgoth's Beard doesn't show on the map....and I can't remember where I have to go to get to that very edge to trigger it on the map. Zombie Map?

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Tue Aug 21, 2001 11:38 pm

To get Ulgoth's Beard to show up on the World Map, I exit the Baldur's Gate Bridge Map from the north (top) edge.

[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: Sojourner ]

Misfit · Post by **Misfit** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 10:38 am

Thnx

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 11:39 am

You're welcome.

sigurd · Post by **sigurd** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 1:11 pm

There is a huge problem not getting all your party members as soon as possible, and that is they will have poor HP. if you take them you will level them up yourself,. otherwise they get about half their max HP, a little more.

Maybe best to let Sarevok live as you say it, as he is a real meanie, you might need the extra objects and exp levels that yu gain in Durlags tower. Forget the easy battles in SoA or ToB, Sarevok is the toughest battle in the whole series

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 2:02 pm

Isn't Sarevok toughened up after you do the TotSC add-on? The TotSC description kinda hints at that, but I've never seen him without TotSC installed.

Misfit · Post by **Misfit** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 3:26 pm

Well he is tougher. It is not just you that profites from the higher XP cap....he is way stronger, too. However bigger changes come with his allies, as they even use cloudkill which they would not without TotSC....

About the other thing....it doesn't actually matter when you get the other party members....you will have loads of time and will get loads of XP to get them up to highest possible level, too. You don't lose out on anything...

Well actually okay....you might lose some HP...but that won't matter either...for me it actually works better picking them up later. Also, you only get the real good Chars for BG1 later on....Kahlid sucks...Jaheira sucks big time....if you have a good party, Xzar and Montaron are of no real use, first to really fitting are Minsc and Dynaheir.

What actually angers me, is something which happens at the moment but never occured to me in my other times through BG1....Minsc actually sucks in Melee Fight. I never had a game where Ajantis actually outfights Minsc....and that is Minsc with a two handed sword +2 while Ajantis uses Bastard Sword +1. Sucks big time....

[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: Misfit ]

sigurd · Post by **sigurd** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 11:59 pm

Get the good characters later on? For the perfect evil party i can get them all before i got up a level. Kagain, the best fighter, Viconia, Edwin, Sharteel and Montaron.

Misfit · Post by **Misfit** » Thu Aug 23, 2001 10:21 am

Originally posted by sigurd:
<STRONG>Get the good characters later on? For the perfect evil party i can get them all before i got up a level. Kagain, the best fighter, Viconia, Edwin, Sharteel and Montaron.</STRONG>

Well yes...thats the evil party...but if you play good or neutral and want to include Coran, Ajantis etc. It might take some time to get them, it's no good going to Cloakwood when even a bloody tasloi is way too much for you.

Also it depends on your char.

Imnesvale · Post by **Imnesvale** » Thu Aug 23, 2001 12:42 pm

Misc is useless in BG1... ok he's strong.. but 15 con and dex!!! That sux... he got 40Hp whewn my Fighet/cleric had 70... PLus that bad dex makes him useless for bow.. he's not worth it!

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Thu Aug 23, 2001 2:05 pm

Minsc rewlz in BG1! You don't give a bow to a guy with 18/96 Strength! You let him run up and bash stuff.

He benefits greatly from the Gauntlets of Dexterity, which, incidentally, are found in his quest.

Reminds me of a guy with lousy Dex in BG2...