best mage armour

theone · Post by **theone** » Sun Nov 04, 2001 6:34 pm

i am half way through chap 9.
my character is a elven mage/thief.

should i make him wear

the robe of vecna + ring of protection +2

or

the improved bladeslinger elven chain +5 (you know the one which is immune to normal weopons) and another ring.

The fallen one · Post by **The fallen one** » Sun Nov 04, 2001 6:58 pm

Well if it was my choice I would go with the robe and the rings. The bonus in spell casting can be a very handy thing.

Masteraleph · Post by **Masteraleph** » Sun Nov 04, 2001 7:26 pm

Probably the robe and the ring. Also, I would probably add the bracers of AC 3.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sun Nov 04, 2001 7:58 pm

if it were elven mage/fighter, then the bladesinger. But the robe is better for the theif combo...

Musashi Miyamoto · Post by **Musashi Miyamoto** » Sun Nov 04, 2001 8:19 pm

robe all the way that -4 to casting time can be a life saver

and u can get good spells off in no time

THE JAKER · Post by **THE JAKER** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 12:23 am

I agree if you don't have any other mages you've got to have the robe of vecna- the casting speed bonus is the best thing ever. Just look at all the spells that have a casting time of 5 or less: you put on that robe and the amulet of power, cast improved alacrity and run through your entire memorized spell list before your enemy can take 5 steps!

BTW, I question the point of improving the bladesinger chain - it costs 40,000 gold to go up one AC point and get immunity to normal weapons, well there ARE no normal weapons in TOB even the grunt guards have +1 longswords, besides your main character could very well be immune anyway from hell - so you're paying 40,000 Gold for 1 AC point! I guess if you can't think of anything else to spend it on you could do it, but it seems kinda pricey to me.

Bobsy · Post by **Bobsy** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 1:31 am

I always have way too much gold at that point, so it's not much of a problem. But the immunity to normal weapons is even less useful to me, since I use it on my assassin PC, who is of course immune to normal and +1 weapons anyway.

theone · Post by **theone** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 5:06 am

currently i have imeon wearing the improved bladeslinger chain. i have dex 19.
my equipment is

robe of venca,
amulet of power, (think of changing to the one which gives you +3 ac bonus)
vailour helm (the one which gives you a +1 bonus and sircumlum)
clock of mirroring
ring of gaxx
ring of protection +2
boots of speed
belt of inerital barrier (the one which gives you 25% magic resitance)
weopons either
blackrazor, answerer, crom fayer, rune hammer +5.

which gives me -6 ac or -8 when single handed.

my party is of me and saveok. so i am sort of the main fighter with saverok. i have a small party of me, jaheria, imeon and saveok only. i have collected all from soa but ain't done watchers keep yet.

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 12:58 pm

You're probably better off giving the Robe to a Fighter/Mage than a straight Mage. The straight Mage will still cast a spell every round (if well protected by the party), and the Fighter/Mage can make one or two extra attacks in the time saved by the Robe.

Bruce Lee · Post by **Bruce Lee** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 2:34 pm

Originally posted by Xyx:
You're probably better off giving the Robe to a Fighter/Mage than a straight Mage. The straight Mage will still cast a spell every round (if well protected by the party), and the Fighter/Mage can make one or two extra attacks in the time saved by the Robe.

That is good thinking. My thoughts exactly. Also if your fighter/mage has it then he wont be disrupted even if casting when engaged in melee.

Obsidian · Post by **Obsidian** » Wed Nov 07, 2001 5:23 pm

What you all seem to be forgetting, is that the Ring Of Protection gives a +2 bonus to SAVING THROWS

Now, that is way better than an ac difference.
PS dont take the amulet of the master harper of the Amulet of Power, unless you have the extra bhaal abilities. The extra AC wont help diddly if you get levels sucked away by wraiths

theone · Post by **theone** » Thu Nov 08, 2001 3:22 am

Originally posted by Knight Errant:
What you all seem to be forgetting, is that the Ring Of Protection gives a +2 bonus to SAVING THROWS

Now, that is way better than an ac difference.
PS dont take the amulet of the master harper of the Amulet of Power, unless you have the extra bhaal abilities. The extra AC wont help diddly if you get levels sucked away by wraiths

what extra bhaal abilities??? when do you get them???

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Sat Nov 10, 2001 4:36 am

Originally posted by theone:

what extra bhaal abilities??? when do you get them???

The result of the Pocket Plane tests if you have the mini add-on (available on Baldurdash).

Izgoth · Post by **Izgoth** » Tue Nov 13, 2001 2:36 pm

I think that the robe is better on a pure mage/sorc than on a fighter combo. The fighter only needs to cast beef up spells before combat but the mage needs to cast spells all the time.

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Wed Nov 14, 2001 11:30 am

A smart Fighter/Mage will also cast spells during combat, by utilizing the pause between his last attack and the end of his round. If you have The Robe, over half of your spells cast instantly. You can hack a bit, Mirror Image yourself, hack a bit more, fire a Skull Trap, hack...