Poll on what enemies you want in my expansion...

KensaiRyu · Post by **KensaiRyu** » Tue May 01, 2001 1:43 am

Ok now that Gorins Area Editor is up and running again, I can proceed with my unofficial expansion for BG2. I need to know what enemies you want for this expansion though.
This was the idea I came up with a while back but was unable to implement due to no Area editor: Areas with different monsters that respawn so you can return for gold, treasure and stuff (like in bg1). I have been looking at the cre files to see what monsters give good treasure and items, and would provide a challenge. Any ideas? I want to use some of the areas from bg1 in this expansion.Any favorites?

Krimmy · Post by **Krimmy** » Tue May 01, 2001 3:10 am

Yeah, I like this topic

#1: Lloth (A side quest dealing some long overdue punishment to this lesser god)

#2: Tiamat

Any remember Pools of Darkness where you did actually get to put the smack down on her?

Rail · Post by **Rail** » Tue May 01, 2001 3:41 am

Lolth and her handmaidens would be nice.

How 'bout driders? They've always been cool.

My problem is, all the cool creatures are for lower levels than the god-like ones we're to be playing at. IMHO, the only cool mansters left to fight are gods

...and eachother

.

KensaiRyu · Post by **KensaiRyu** » Tue May 01, 2001 3:46 am

These are some great ideas. I got a good idea for the Animation of Lloth.Gonna start on that now, it will be fun to create a god to battle...good ideas...Keep em coming!

MinscFan · Post by **MinscFan** » Tue May 01, 2001 9:14 am

Did anyone ever play Menzoberranzan? That was a cool game with lots of cool monsters. I think you are on to something with the Lolth idea. Maybe Drizzt could make a cameo? If you could it would be neat to make a drow city. That way you could enter and kick butt. THe only thing is it should be bigger and tougher than the city in the game.

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Tue May 01, 2001 10:15 am

warrior lich who can attack

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Tue May 01, 2001 2:36 pm

dracolich, demi-lich, driders, lolth, armies of goblins

Nick_Dude · Post by **Nick_Dude** » Tue May 01, 2001 7:09 pm

don't forget the tarrasque!

KensaiRyu · Post by **KensaiRyu** » Tue May 01, 2001 7:24 pm

Hmm, I like the dark elves/Lloth aspect, How much Hps you think a Deity like Lloth should have? I can make her have good AI, so I dont know if she needs alot of hps, but then again she is a god...

beaver_cheese · Post by **beaver_cheese** » Tue May 01, 2001 7:29 pm

Make her avatar appear. She's a goddess, and thus immortal, but her avatar should be mortal. Or some such... Or throw in the party from the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon!

Huskylaw · Post by **Huskylaw** » Tue May 01, 2001 9:17 pm

How about a hoard of Lesser Demon Lords, or instead of Elder Orbs, some Directors.

Zartuul · Post by **Zartuul** » Tue May 01, 2001 9:46 pm

One of my all time Favorite AD&D Monsters was the Death Knight. He had some key weaknesses which should be addressed so don't use the stats listed in the manual. Here's the base stats listed for the Death Knight

Lvl 9 Anti-Paladin
Undead but cannot be turned, full undead immunities
Once per day 20d6 fireball, power word kill, symbol of death, Gate.
Innate abilities: protection from good/evil, detect invisbility, Fear 10' radius, super natural 18/00 strength, +1 or better weapon to hit, Ice storm at will, dispel magic at lvl 20 skill.
Always wields some kind of a magic two handed sword
75% magic resistance

The Death Knight is a rare creature created when a demon lord perverts a fallen paladin to the side of evil. It is a natural leader of evil creatures and having be a part of a 'grunt' role wouldn't be fitting. The most famous death knight was Lord Soth from the Dragon Lance series.

I suggest that it's level be increased anywhere from 15 to 20. Using the model and combat abilities of the Demon Knights with some of the added abilities I listed here could be a good opponent. I suggest a script where the Death Knight casts Gate upon seeing the players much like Mages currently cast spells when seeing players now.

Nick_Dude · Post by **Nick_Dude** » Tue May 01, 2001 10:02 pm

Why do you want some directors Huskylaw? They have one in Windspear Hills and I have to say that he really sucks. He is nothing compared to an elder orb.

moriveth · Post by **moriveth** » Tue May 01, 2001 10:27 pm

Can the engine handle two dragons on the same screen?

Rail · Post by **Rail** » Tue May 01, 2001 11:23 pm

How about some of the demonlords from PnP D&D, MM1&2?

Displacer Beasts? Too low level, but they're cool.

Rust monsters would be horrible! I always hated them, but...

Quicklings would be cool, but probably annoying.

Funny thing is, I remember fighting Lolth as a lvl 13 cleric in PnP D&D ages ago. We won, too! Oh, how times have changed.

Huskylaw · Post by **Huskylaw** » Wed May 02, 2001 4:25 am

Well, without reflecting cloak or shield, any one of those Orbs can be tough. But you're right, Elder Orbs are the toughest, especially because of imprisonment. I think Elder Orbs are 100% resistant to magic too, but Directors have higher resistance to fire and other things ... Anyway, I dunno, just to mix it up. I like the lesser demon lords more.

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sat Jun 02, 2001 3:06 pm

Somthing from my "latest" story horg(12Ft tall) and new Beastmaster familiers Klyn make up the stats

KensaiRyu · Post by **KensaiRyu** » Sat Jun 02, 2001 3:22 pm

I will try to use these in Manveru and My upcoming expansion, Great ideas all. Craig I like the warrior lich idea. Also I do not think I will be able to use custom animations so Lloth will have to look like a fenale drow...I was going to use an Animation from Icewind dale for her but ran into problems.

leeho730 · Post by **leeho730** » Sun Jun 03, 2001 3:09 am

Vecna, Ao, avatar of Torm(god of lawful do-gooders), gold dragon, Lloth, avatar of Cyric, Tiamat, etc...

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Sun Jun 03, 2001 3:31 am

Maybe a Priest sidequest could involve the removal of Lloth as a God. You could implement the Rod in the Amaunator quest (unseeing eye). You could call on Amaunator for help with the rod or something and he could be an avatar that gives you the rod or something? Just an idea.