Most uesless Class available

Char_Aznable · Post by **Char_Aznable** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 10:51 pm

What do most of you guys consider as the most useless class available in TOB??

I personally do not like bard and always think of them to be nothing more then excess baggage in my team.

Baldursgate Fan · Post by **Baldursgate Fan** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 12:25 am

Hi Char_Aznable:

This is a very subjective (hence maybe a little contentious) question as everyone has his or her favourite class to play with.

I personally like the monk (but that's just me). To make my money's worth, I am playing thru each class from SoA to ToB with all the "improvements", including extra merchants and Ascension. The Soc and Bard are pretty cool classes (though they are quite hard to solo, if you are into that sort of thing).

In my last run-thru, I had three bards in my multi-player team, and they are a blast! Don't give up on them yet - they are good all-rounders at high levels, and with ToB, you will often max out the abilities without too much effort.

Happy gaming!

And Happy New Year!

Baldursgate Fan · Post by **Baldursgate Fan** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 12:31 am

Sorry!

Ought to change my glasses

Most useless class?

Beastmaster!

Nearly impossible to solo! With the Ascension mod, forget it!

Bruce Lee · Post by **Bruce Lee** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 7:52 am

Bards are great but with ToB installed skalds are not very useful. Same goes for Bountyhunters.

Baldursgate Fan · Post by **Baldursgate Fan** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 9:32 am

True true.

After powergaming with vanilla kensais, paladins, slayers, variations of dual-classed mages and thieves, I reckon it's time for me to try something different.

Skalds and bounty hunters are "fun" in the role playing sense, though they don't have a lot of the kick-butt abilities of the above classes. Buy the special harp from one of the extra merchants and watch the enemies get confused!

That's why I love playing BG (explains my nick

; so many possibilities.
With Freedom Reign, The Darkest Day and Ascension Mods, I will be kept busy till NWN comes out.

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 9:42 am

ToB and TDD don't mix...Yet!!!!

Baldursgate Fan · Post by **Baldursgate Fan** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 10:10 am

Oops!

Yes I forgot to mention that I played thru TDD 1st, uninstalled into a separate folder and went on with FR and Ascension.

TDD is worth the one day spent downloading from cable. In fact, anything and everything to do with BG and Planescape is still in my hard drive!

Merkidon · Post by **Merkidon** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:47 am

In General I find Bards to be kinda sucky, and the Beastmaster looks lame too although I've never played him (crappy Archer with crappy pets?), however, for some reason Haer'Dalis is able to cast wizard spells WHILE wearing the melodic chain in my game..so he's quite nifty =)

pomr · Post by **pomr** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 12:35 pm

I've got TDD installed, but haven't heard of Freedom Reign -- is there a site for it?

TDD is pretty good so far.

pomr · Post by **pomr** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 12:39 pm

Sorry...that was off topic, bad POMR, bad--no biscuit.

ON topic:
I can't think of any reason to play a Jester, or the Beastmaster.

semper fidelis · Post by **semper fidelis** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 4:26 pm

Jesus, beastmaster is the worst class. Animal summoning my ass! And what are you supposed to fight with? A wooden stick all the way to the end?

fable · Post by **fable** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:28 pm

Originally posted by semper fidelis:
<STRONG>Jesus, beastmaster is the worst class. Animal summoning my ass! And what are you supposed to fight with? A wooden stick all the way to the end?</STRONG>

I prefer to think of Beastmasters as "profession-challenged."

On the other hand, if you've already tired of playing the game on the impossible level, why not choose the worst profession for your character and hobble yourself with NPCs you don't really like?

Kovi · Post by **Kovi** » Tue Jan 01, 2002 4:48 am

There are no useless classes. There are some, which have serious drawbacks without real advantages.
An appropriate party and/or the use of the correct items could balance the weaknesses, so every class could go even in solo.
The worsts are those, which have the most item restrictions (Wizard Slayer and Beastmaster in SoA, Beastmaster in ToB).

Yoshimo · Post by **Yoshimo** » Thu Jan 03, 2002 8:17 pm

The Monk is easily the most useless class in BG2, I mena look at it, a THACO of -10 easily with items by lvl 18, Armor -9 by lvl 20, Complete Magic Immunity with items by the lvl of 21, they even get insane damage, and dish it out with 5 attacks a turn, I mean how crappy is that?

In other words, Monks sucks, go Beastmasters

Note: if you honestly believed that the above paragraph reflects the views of the author, you are in need of serious mental help, thank you, and good night.

Baldursgate Fan · Post by **Baldursgate Fan** » Thu Jan 03, 2002 9:38 pm

Char_Aznable · Post by **Char_Aznable** » Fri Jan 04, 2002 7:43 am

Talking about monk, their def gets a bit out of hand in TOB. I manage to get an AC of -19 with items like ring of gaxx etc.

Baldursgate Fan · Post by **Baldursgate Fan** » Fri Jan 04, 2002 9:19 am

I will try my best not to start a Monk versus Kensai/Mage or some other potentially flamish threads here, but IMHO, the Monk is the easiest class to solo for the reasons mentioned above and might even make SoA/ToB boring for some.

Which actually makes me wonder how Bioware managed to balance gameplay with classes that are so obviously slanted towards powergaming in one and "strategically challenging" RP-wise in another class.

I mean, +4 fists? With 4 attacks? Soup that up with a couple of Greater Whirlwinds = no brainer.

Hence personally, I actually found "useless" classes such as bards and wizard slayers more interesting.

[ 01-04-2002: Message edited by: Baldursgate Fan ]

Kovi · Post by **Kovi** » Sat Jan 05, 2002 1:26 am

Actually I found monk quite "average" in ToB. Most enemies are fighters and many can see the invisible. Most bosses are immune to slay/stun. It means that high level fighter abilities (GWW) rule. That makes a monk basicly a good fighter without the need of resistance items or cloak of mirroring.