The old Cleric /Druid Argument

battlemage · Post by **battlemage** » Tue Aug 28, 2001 1:36 pm

If you have TOB installed, the GW base AC is set at -10. In SOA, it's much higher than that. Also both druid and cleric cap their THACO at 6, a druid can wear shadow dragon scale or white dragon scale, so the cleric's armor advantage is not much.

Christian · Post by **Christian** » Tue Aug 28, 2001 1:49 pm

Ah...great, thanks. Anyhow, I forgot to mention multi cleric/ranger, full spell list, nuff said...
And for those who think clerics don`t fit thye roleplay as bhaalspawn, just read the PC cleric biography in BG1...he/she doesn`t receive his/her spells from any god (something like the sorcerer, it gave a name for this special kind of cleric, but I can`t remember). The kits on the other hand...pfff

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Tue Aug 28, 2001 8:34 pm

Koren, I think its

Non-denominational!

Giggle....

Christian · Post by **Christian** » Wed Aug 29, 2001 6:23 am

No,no...perhaps Avowed? Well something like that...

seanthony · Post by **seanthony** » Thu Aug 30, 2001 9:46 am

Ok, the thing he was saying about a Shapshifter with -13 AC is, IMO, referring to the Greater Elemental transformation.. I know.. I just played my Shapeshifter a few seconds ago. Anyway, I managed to get it to be .. er.. -14 AC with a Ring +2.

But in human form, I was.. er.. -9 (I think). I have the Bracers of Dex, and Black Dragon scales.

But if Greater WW, I think it's something like... -5 AC or something. But my thaco was always a poor 4-5.

But I mean, attacking a person 3 times kinda pays off.. hehe

And IMO, Druids are good mid-game, really. Coz at Level 17 (I think), I had 6 level 7 spells.. imagine.. 6 Implosions.. yay. While my Anomen (also at level 17) had.. 2.

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Sun Sep 02, 2001 3:27 pm

This time through the game I had a cleric only briefly for their NPC quests (Aerie then Cernd). Other than that I completed the game with a druid/fighter based party

PC - Druid Avenger
Jaheira
Imoen
Mazzy
Korgan (exchanged for Sarevok)
Edwin

I did not feel I missed out on not having a cleric and the Druid Avenger CAN wear plate mail (animal based plate such as dragon scale or ankheg plate)

Once I installed ToB, my Avengers AC went to -7 (wearing red dragon scale) and bracers.

If your character is wearing a ring of protection as well as red dragon when you install ToB, take care not to unequip either - they cannot be equipped together due to the new magical properties of red dragon scale in ToB. If they are already equipped you will keep them.

Incidentally this is only useful if it is your PC wearing both, as soon as an NPC dies it will unequip all items...

[ 09-02-2001: Message edited by: Yshania ]