Range damage

Christian · Post by **Christian** » Thu Sep 06, 2001 5:09 pm

I`ve been wanting to start a game with Archer in ToB, in fact I did, but the damage he dealt didn`t seem right...I seemed to be doing quite a few 10s (tried on kobolds)
Grand Mastery- +3
Level 16- +5
Arrows +2- +2
Arrow dmg (1-6) 1
That`s a minimum of 11...
Also I`ve heared of a 2.5 nº of attacks cap, anything on this?

Obsidian · Post by **Obsidian** » Thu Sep 06, 2001 5:15 pm

I believe kobalds count as small and thus have resistance to missile weapons, or at least they do in PnP. I think. A better test would be ogres or something.

Obsidian · Post by **Obsidian** » Thu Sep 06, 2001 5:15 pm

I believe kobalds count as small and thus have resistance to missile weapons, or at least they do in PnP. I think. A better test would be ogres or something.

Christian · Post by **Christian** » Thu Sep 06, 2001 5:54 pm

OK. And what about the 2.5 attacks bug? Is there a fix for that?

Musashi Miyamoto · Post by **Musashi Miyamoto** » Fri Sep 07, 2001 6:07 am

LOL i have a archer myself and has grandmastery in crossbow, shortbow, longbow, so i can use any bow, and then with tugan bow i got an 4 attack per round which i belive is now the cap? but with bow of geshin i was geting 7/2 but i slap on boot of speed and boom 4 attacks per round, all i can say is greater whirlwind is NASTY! heh and if i need to tank i just grab a hardness then do 3 armor of faith and boom 100+ something i think like 114 resistance to all physical damage, and into the 90's resistance to EVERYTHIHNG ELSE

Christian · Post by **Christian** » Fri Sep 07, 2001 7:42 am

Yeah, I get that too, but what I heared was that even if it said 4 attaks/round, it only shot at 2.5 attaks/round, or something like that...wanderin if it was true.

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » Fri Sep 07, 2001 9:26 am

If you select your equipment right, as you level up your damage will reach as high as 20, sometimes even higher. This is superior to all but the most powerful of melee hits.

Musashi Miyamoto · Post by **Musashi Miyamoto** » Fri Sep 07, 2001 2:25 pm

yep, right bow, with normal bow, i only do maybe 10-15 damage, but with a good short bow, like gheson's or any of those bow that adds a lots of damage, i don't rember what they were, one was called strong arm added some damage? those kind can drive ur damage into the 20-30's range, and ive got crit approaching 100, the 100's crit is only surpassed by an thief backstabbing, i onice got 900 crit, with 7x assain but that's kind of rare

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » Fri Sep 07, 2001 3:19 pm

Once again though, the fast-fire shortbows (tuigan & necarden) dish out more damage in total because of their fast fire.

Obsidian · Post by **Obsidian** » Fri Sep 07, 2001 9:45 pm

Personaly, I always make sure all my characters have melee weapons equipped, regardless of class or prof. Keldorn with the giant hair crossbow does 21+ damage. Minsc w/longbows does 20+, same with mazzy etc. It comes in really handy. I just send my paladin forward with Carys. and let the nmes hit him, while all the others let fly.

nael · Post by **nael** » Sat Sep 08, 2001 2:00 am

i have been flyign through SOA with a party of 4 archers.
it has been SO easy...especially the mind flayer dungeon. they never get close enough to suck my brains out.
i only have a couple levels to go before they all get whirlwind...then of course greater whirwind...i just can't wait!

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » Sat Sep 08, 2001 4:29 am

Archers make the best use of the Whirlwind effects because their Thac0 is so low.

incandescent one · Post by **incandescent one** » Sat Sep 08, 2001 4:49 am

Man, am I the only saying that whirlwind is ok for archers ? I mean sure 10 attacks is nice, but I can get 9 attacks with improved haste, and 1 casting of improved haste has the same duration as 20 whirlwinds. And don't NOBODY have 20 whirlwinds.

I find the power-attack line more useful. My ranger (lvl 29) has around 4 power attacks, 6 critical strikes and 1 smite, and 1 whirlwind. Think for a moment, most creatures are vulnerable to critical hits. Now 9 critical hits in 1 round will VASTLY outdo the damage any sissy 10 attacks will do. I think that alone is reason enough to choose critical strike over whirlwind. For those nasty critters that you definately do not want close to your archer, you have smite. Especially useful for those mist horrors/ mind flayers/ vampires and other draining creatures.