Fun with poison weapon...new cheese

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Mon Jan 21, 2002 10:59 pm

yet another cheese tactic from userfriendly...(groan, he's at it again!! boo, go for his eyes, boo!!!)
ever tried the druid spell fireseeds? a mediocre spell acording to xyx, but it does create some weapons, about 4 with jahiera, that explode on impact and works just like melf but you can pass it to another char and it has a radius of damage, like around 10 feet or so, same as p word blind. so I had jaheira cast, and pass to my current char, who has poison weapon ability. went to unseesing eye, and my char had shield of balduran so it was a breeze. got to the beholder ambush, and just before the spot I poisoned it, and threw them at the gauth in center. every beholder near by was poisoned!!!

Bwahahahahahah!!!

now poison is possibly the best mage disrupter ever, since like melf acid arrows you get damage per round, and this tends to break mage concentration. think if you refus, like me to pay coweled wizard extortion, and you start casting magic in streets. toss a poisoned fireseed, the radius of blast damage will poison them all!!!

they gate in in a tight group of 4, touching each other . cast in middle, then whack with conventional weapons while they gasp and cry in pain!! this is a gret way for disrupting mages huddled close together, fast. should also work just fine with big metal rod and the frag grenade ammo...radius of 30 feet!!!

curare hand grenades!!!

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Mon Jan 21, 2002 11:51 pm

Try poisoned arrows of detonation.

When I found ~20 of those bad boys one game, my assassin had a field day. Heh heh heh...

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 12:35 am

Poison, best way to deal with those pesky mages and priests!!!

bwahahahahaha!!!!!

see, this way I can use torture spells on the poor defenseless cruds!

Kovi · Post by **Kovi** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 7:21 am

There is one problem though: poison doesn't hit through stoneskin...

Obsidian · Post by **Obsidian** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:33 am

Ok, I'll admit that this cheese is just cool...

Crosswind · Post by **Crosswind** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:44 am

Roger that, knight...Poison FLAME!

-Cross

Kovi · Post by **Kovi** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 12:00 pm

Nevertheless the original idea (using specials on multiple damaging weapon) is interesting. What about called shot/smite or quivering palm?

TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 8:28 am

ohw that is good cheese!!

so an assassin can poison multiple targets with fire seeds in 1 blow??
i will try that!
but does the same thing work with melfs minute meteors??
can i poison them as wel?
i always thought u couldn't poison any ranged weapon, slings,meteors or arrows, but thats is wrong?? can u do it??

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 12:58 pm

Yes, assassins can poison any ranged weapon, and assassin mages can poison MMM's. (I imagine the same holds true for Energy Blades in ToB.)

Here's my ultimate cheese: Fire poisoned arrows of detonation using the Gesen Bow. All enemies within the blast radius take fire , poison , and electrical damage!

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 3:31 am

or forge big metal unit, get firetooth +5 from watchers keep, and load up......

euipp crossbow, add the frag ammo from big metal rod, and fire tooth or any other frossbow will fire just fine. you got thaco +5, fire damage from firetooth, blast damage, similar to magic damage of skull trap, and poison.

OH my GOD!!!

if you equipp club of detaonation or storm star, will the blast of club of detonation be poisoned??? I think so, and with storm star, will you get poisoned chained lightning????

also, will ras or spectal brand summoned sword be poisoned????

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 6:10 am

Those frag grenades for the Big Metal Rod do 1d12 fire damage, and have a THACO of +10, as well as setting your attacks to 5 per round. Just imagine the potential...

Don't think any of the summoned swords can be poisoned, because they're, well, summoned creatures.

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 6:23 am

yeah, but will storm star carry over when you manage to trigger a cahin lightning? probably not, but fun to imagine...heee!!!

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 6:33 am

Oh yeah, TheDude, for even more fun with melf minute meteors, try this. create a elven mage thief, use sk to turn to assassin mage, tehn you have a multi class that just rocks. so you get use any item, then equipp axe of unyielding or foa in OFF hand, cast melf and poison, or energy blades and poison. 1 out of every 4 attacks you will get a RANGED attack with off handed weapon. so 3 hits with poisone dmage disrupting fire strike, will punch thru stoneskin, and the 4th attack will do ranged meelee weapon damamge. so if you equipp flail, you get fire acid ice damage with unsavable slow at RANGE, with axe, vorpal hit, at RANGE, and if you get black razor, you can level drain at RANGE.

hmmm...try club of detonation, and if you use assassin fighter mage with tob xp cap remover, you should get greater whirlwind, where the club detonates at range, in a poison explosion....giggle!!!

TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 11:44 am

he thnx

@ Sojourner IIRC u cant fire arrows with the bow of gesen right?? because it has magical electric arrows of his own??

DaJir · Post by **DaJir** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 11:49 am

Equip the bow, then equpip the ammo(just put it in the box its supposed to go cause right click'n on the bow won't work)
now you have an ammoless weapon using ammo for extra dmg. Same with all the ammoless weapons out there (cept for throwing axes and daggers... i think). Use Watchers keep quivers and be totally ammoless with extra dmg.

My personal fav is firetooth + bolt of biting.

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 11:51 am

Originally posted by TheDude
@ Sojourner IIRC u cant fire arrows with the bow of gesen right?? because it has magical electric arrows of his own??

You can, by loading the arrows into the quiver slot after equipping the Gesen Bow. This works for all the ammo-less launchers, like Tansheron's Bow and Everard's Sling.

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 2:00 pm

arrows of biting, and bolts of biting with firetooth=extra fire damage plus poison, and gesen =extra electrical damage. nice thing about this is ....

no ammo, just unswitch the ammo and you can now hit monsters, like golems and demiliches that can only be hit by +4 or higher weapons...

thaco of weapon adds to pc thaco, to determine if you can hit the enemy, but the ammo bonus will determine if it affects certain monsters immune to low + projectiles.

these factors dont matter at meelee weapons cause the weapon thaco and its + bonuses are the same. this is why even at just +4 only and no other benefits warblade +4 is a worthwile getting if you got gold and worth keeping in bag of holding in case nishruu chomps your fav sword.

the nice thing about fire tooth is the ability to use big metal unit ammo, and adds bonusses of its own... I am also fond of koa tuan bolts, one char fires them, and holds enemies stunned while the rest of party gets free potshots...