Pets

bogotter · Post by **bogotter** » Sat Feb 02, 2002 8:06 am

On the tactics areas of this site, it quite often says "summon plenty of pets" or words to that effect. This sounds good in theory, but I can never control more than 5 at a time, which is pretty useless if serious cannon fodder is needed.

Why is this? What can I do to get around it?

Rahvin · Post by **Rahvin** » Sat Feb 02, 2002 8:17 am

five is the limit.no getting around it.

Locke Da'averan · Post by **Locke Da'averan** » Sat Feb 02, 2002 9:47 am

actually there is a way around it IIRC

simulacrum&staff of fire or smth like that, might've been project image don't remember...

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Sat Feb 02, 2002 10:22 am

If you use simulcrium you can summon as many creatures as you want. I think it also works with project image, but I'm not sure.

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sat Feb 02, 2002 12:45 pm

project image WILL let you summon 7 planetars, or one time I had 20 skellies in windspear hills.

it will also override the 7 quest level traps limit on maps, hit a certain demon prince with 15 spike traps, died instantly, and best of all it will not trigger dialog, so you can have jan projected image set as many traps as you want on the platform, or send in image with far sight to trap twisted rune with many delayed action fireballs...

the image is vulnerable to true sight and dispell magic, but spell immunity illusion will make you invulnerable to true sight, but NOT dispell magic,

when you cast tiemstop greater acuity the image can do so and unleash hell, you do not use up spells of your main char...

for the ultimage in firepower setup chain contingency with 3 project image condiion helpless, and when you get to battle cast project image, you get 4 images all with spell ready to roll....

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Sat Feb 02, 2002 1:14 pm

Originally posted by UserUnfriendly
project image WILL let you summon 7 planetars

I guess it does, but just to be clear, does PI or Sim. bypass the limit of one Planetar/Deva at a time?

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sat Feb 02, 2002 11:33 pm

yes. it will...

i usually go for demo gorgy with 4 planetars...

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sun Feb 03, 2002 12:37 am

almost forgot, if your char is female, like aerie or your pc char is female, like i usually run, the image is a deep, male voice avatar, like when edwin casts a spell.

the project image is a individual cre file, with its own voice, and its freaky to hear that coming out of sweet aeries mouth.

not 100% sure about simmy, since I am well known as a expert on images, I never ever use or get the spell simmy.

oh yeah, in certain situations you want to get rid of your image? cast dispell magic right in front, you can get rid of the image whenever you like, rather than waiting for duration to run out.

is NO WAY to protect summons and pets from death magic, and images, not sure baout simmy, from dispell magic...

swords cannot be protected via death ward, and spell immunity abjuration (?) will not protect image from dispell magic. but spell immunity illusion will protect image from true sight.

also free action will not allow the mage to move after casting project image...

now some of you who have been here a while know about the greater acuity cleaning your aura so the next spell you cast will have a shorter casting duration? if your image casts that, that nifty feature will not happen to your real mage, it will make spell casting faster on the image for duration only. you can cast stuff like prot from energy and spirit armor on the immobile mage from the project image, that will last past image duration, but a farsight cast while imaged will only last as long a the image is still around. skull traps and delay fireballs will last, but not sure about oracle.

and most especially, almost any level dispell works, you dont have an issue with level of caster and enemy to worry about with images, if an ogre mage, lowest of the low, or a stinking tiefling bard casts dispell, you image is toast.

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sun Feb 03, 2002 12:40 am

oops almost forgot...a raw image cannot attack except with spells, but shapeshifted it can attack meelee...

for evil brainsuck trick, cast chain contingency, 3 project images, and set condition helpless, and cast project image...FOUR images pop out, and shapehsifted to mind flayer and with greater whirlwind, you can brain suck anything vulnerable to +2, I think weapons. INSTANTLY. only true sihgt and dispell and prot from magic wep is any sorta defense.

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Sun Feb 03, 2002 6:46 am

Where can I find mordenkainens sword?

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Sun Feb 03, 2002 8:23 am

Another fun way to get LOTS of pets is to cast Limited Wish and ask the Genie for a "horde to overrun my enemies". You'll get about 20 bunnies.

They're only bunnies, you cannot control them and they won't attack out of their own accord, but don't underestimate their usefulness! They're still green-circled, so enemies will chase after them, which buys you a lot of time.

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Mon Feb 04, 2002 3:48 am

all right, so who saw "once more with feeling" the buffy the vampire slayer musical episode???

one has to think of the ex-demon Anya, who is xanders girlfriend, and how she sang the theory that it was bunnys behind the musical curse put on the town of sunnydale, and how she vents her fear of bunnies,....

"it could be bunnys,
they're not as cute as everyone supposes,
got those puffy legs, and twitchy little noses,
and whats with all the carrots,
why do they need such good eyesight for anyway?
bunny, yeah it could be bunnys!!!"

could it be under the right battle conditions those furry hordes can suddenly turn into vampire mindfalayres under the control of the caster??

and whats fun is turning vampire flayer...

hate mind flayers, hate, hate!!!