what does that mean?

virtualone · Post by **virtualone** » Mon Feb 04, 2002 12:47 pm

what does that mean?
announcing iwd II so short before the awaited release of neverwinter nights..

i think they want to keep the community busy, because nwn will be massively delayed (my guess: mid Q3 /2002)

anyway, does anyone know what exactly the massively modified infinity engine means?

or when the website will be there?

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virtualone

Bloodstalker · Post by **Bloodstalker** » Mon Feb 04, 2002 1:21 pm

Damn, I am gonna have to finish Icewind Dale now.

fable · Post by **fable** » Mon Feb 04, 2002 1:33 pm

NWN is already done. It's been held up because of contractual disputes.

IWD II will be a much simpler game. It's basically a hack-and-slash using 2D backgrounds, like IWD I. Shouldn't require anywhere near the effort of BG2 or NWN.

Looking forward to it, too.

Skinbeard · Post by **Skinbeard** » Mon Feb 04, 2002 2:08 pm

Actually, they're already saying May 28 2002 for a release date. Woohoo!

Mirk · Post by **Mirk** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 5:26 am

actually, the FAQ sais you start at level 1, so no import for our beloved chars from IWD1. sad...

but, maybe it's for the best, with all the new classes and kits

Kayless · Post by **Kayless** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 6:52 am

Originally posted by fable
NWN is already done. It's been held up because of contractual disputes.

People have been saying that they're blowing smoke up our @sses on the Bioware boards. Even though the legal issues between Interplay and Bioware have been resolved, they still say the game won't be released for another three or four months.

They claim that they just aren't ready to release anytime soon (marketing, QA, localization and distribution along with further tweaking are their offical reasons), but if I'd love to call them on that if you'd share your source of info.

(The Peasants are revolting! They're storming Bioware's Castle!)

Originally posted by Mirk
actually, the FAQ sais you start at level 1, so no import for our beloved chars from IWD1. sad...

but, maybe it's for the best, with all the new classes and kits

I'm glad we'll be starting from scratch in IWD2. I don't need to bring my 30th level Heart of Fury party bedecked with an arsenal of magical weaponry into a brand new game to have fun. Besides, I'm looking forward to having a party consisting of the unusual new races and kits available. Drow and Tieflings haven't been playable races before, and the Dreadmaster of Bane sounds sweet.

EDIT: Someone want to explain why my properly implemented gifs are loading as internet addresses?

Mirk · Post by **Mirk** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 7:29 am

@ Kayless:

(love your avatar, BTW!)

i tend to grow kinda attached to the portrait/stats/proficiencies of the character, as well as his playing style - what he does and how he does it (sort of in-game personality, i guess). they form into complete adventurures for me, much like NPC's in BG/BG2. it doesn't matter at what level i play them.

i actually like playing with low-level chars, they the game tends too "feel" right, as every enemy you meet can cut you with two blows of his sword, your'e saving 70 gp to buy an AC4 armour, and every magical item you find feels like it should, and not gets thrown into backpack: "well, this is inly a +3/+5 vs. mice, so i guess i'm gonna kick butt when i meet mice next time..."

for this reason, i really like what NWN are doing: import your BG2 char, start him from level 1.

still, i agree with you on the new options - sure sounds fun

fable · Post by **fable** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 7:58 am

They claim that they just aren't ready to release anytime soon (marketing, QA, localization and distribution along with further tweaking are their offical reasons), but if I'd love to call them on that if you'd share your source of info.

Now you ought to know better than that.

First, what's said in private conversation is just that--private--and if I name somebody, I'd be divulging something that wasn't put in writing. Suffice to say, when I spoke with 'em as far back as late December, I was told that NWN's Q&A was done, and the game was too all intents and purposes finished.

In any case, Bioware itself made a press release about NWN's status when it was finished. If they're not going to believe the PR of a company, why should they believe somebody like myself, who can only offer hearsay evidence?

As for marketing, that's precisely where Infogrammes has decided to change the release date. The publishers have first call on this. A September release date seems odd, IMO, but I'm sure they have their reasons.

As for IWD2: different publisher, different strategy. Besides, IWD2 can be turned out a lot quicker, since it doesn't involve NPC party members and their sub-quests, NPC party conversations, or 3D engines. Simple and straightforward, IWD2 should be relatively easy and quick to turn out.

Kayless · Post by **Kayless** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 8:47 am

Originally posted by Mirk
(love your avatar, BTW!)

My patented Disco Frog is a favorite of many.

Originally posted by Mirk
i tend to grow kinda attached to the portrait/stats/proficiencies of the character, as well as his playing style - what he does and how he does it (sort of in-game personality, i guess). they form into complete adventurures for me, much like NPC's in BG/BG2. it doesn't matter at what level i play them.

I totally understand where you're comming from. I myself transfered some of my IWD PCs to PnP (likewise not stats and levels, but the personalities and background). Of course IWD is a classic Dungeon Crawl so there's not alot of roleplay inherent to it. But that's why folks have imagination.

Originally posted by fable
Now you ought to know better than that. First, what's said in private conversation is just that--private--and if I name somebody, I'd be divulging something that wasn't put in writing. Suffice to say, when I spoke with 'em as far back as late December, I was told that NWN's Q&A was done, and the game was too all intents and purposes finished.

What a pity, Mr. Bond. I was hoping you’d be cooperative. But S.P.E.C.T.R.E. has ways of making you talk... (Sorry. ABC is running a Bond film every Sunday and I’m basking in the Connery era of Bondom).

I guess I'll have to keep myself occupied with Bond films (until the Roger Moore era. Moonraker *shudder*) and Civ3 until NWN releases (assuming it ever does

). Sad to say but I'm starting to loose interest in it (and by the time it releases I probably won't have enough free time to play it anyway).

Originally posted by fable
As for IWD2: different publisher, different strategy. Besides, IWD2 can be turned out a lot quicker, since it doesn't involve NPC party members and their sub-quests, NPC party conversations, or 3D engines. Simple and straightforward, IWD2 should be relatively easy and quick to turn out.

Not to mention the fact that it's the good old Infinity Engine being put to use again, rather then a brand new one. Frankly I expected IWD2 to be out a month ago.

EDIT: ARGH!!! Okay, why in the Nine Hells aren't my pics loading?! They do fine on the other forums! I can't be expected to make do solely with the piddling emoticons this board offers! Is there some glitch on this new IWD2 forum? The Giant Space Hamster must've fallen off his wheel! Somebody whip him and get it rolling again!

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 8:15 pm

Side note

IWD and IWD2 is being made and published by Black Isle (which is a division of Interplay). Bioware has nothing to do with it.

Post by **BuckGB** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 8:48 pm

Originally posted by Kayless
ARGH!!! Okay, why in the Nine Hells aren't my pics loading?!

Sorry Kayless, I accidentally turned images off when I made this new forum. It's now fixed.

Kayless · Post by **Kayless** » Wed Feb 06, 2002 2:11 am

Buck saves the day again

Woohoo! The pics are back!

Thanks Buck! Without my gif fix I get jittery.