Monks

ki-master2 · Post by **ki-master2** » Mon Aug 06, 2001 10:04 am

I found the Monk a very fun and interesting class to play but I was dissapointed there wasn't a monk-ability pool with ki-attacks like solarflare,ki-blast etc.

UberJason · Post by **UberJason** » Mon Mar 18, 2002 4:04 pm

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Casius · Post by **Casius** » Mon Mar 18, 2002 4:35 pm

Normally, I hate people who bring back old threads, but since this one is especially interesting I'll say thankyou instead of "**** OFF".

Lykwid · Post by **Lykwid** » Mon Mar 18, 2002 6:59 pm

One thing to keep in mind is that the monk is designed to be the best at "dealing damage", they can stand behind another tank and still hit. They arnt necessarily the best "tank" but they are the best at doing damage. There arnt really any weapons that compare to the monks fists +4 , 1-20 damage , and you would need 2 of them to keep up to the monks 4 attacks/round with his fist.

So i dont think its fair to say "this class can beat this class" its more about maximizeing the efficency of the group , and useing a monk in the role of melee damage dealer is extremly effective.

As a solo class the monk is quite adept , more so than any other melee class IMO. With natural speed and hide in shadows , there arnt many battles a monk cannot escape from if he has to.

-Lykwid

Commoner · Post by **Commoner** » Mon Mar 18, 2002 8:58 pm

hi i am but a simple commoner but i post my opinion, or rather, argument

It's called protection from magic (the scroll...which monks can not use). For a good real-time hour, you are immune from all magic.

hmm i might be mistaken, but i happen to play a monk and use protection from magic scroll occasionally; maybe its toned down in the patch, but it works like a dream in ToB + SoA w/o patches

Also a Paladin weilding Crom-Faeyr and quaffing 1 potion of magic shielding *easily* breaches 100% MR....and even w/o the potion has a base MR of 75% which isn't shabby.

i would say monk already breaches without potion of magic shielding so doesnt even have to waste good money on the potion... w/ potions, i say monks would easily breach 150% MR for those who use lower resistance on your character, which you wont encounter often, i might add.

In SoA and ToB, however, the traps *aren't* that tough. I find that even Nalia is likely to disarm most traps, and Imoen is almost certainly will. Give Imoen 4-5 potions of master thievery and you have all the thief you will ever need for the best of the game (give her the Harper's Amulet and the Ring of Danger Sense as well).

maybe you didnt read the item description carefully enough... either that or the descriptions is wrong... the item description for potion of master theivery does not mention anything about traps... just lock picking and pickpocketing... and yes, i do take great pride in my ability to read every danm item i get.

The only one that is a real pest is stunning...and even that isn't true for all fighting types (only the pure fighter). The Cavalier and Inquisitor are almost immune to these type of attacks AND (especially the Inquisitor) has MR that is near Monk Level with the right gear (Holy Avenger+Amulet of Seldarine+Bonuses from Hell+Bonuses from Machine = 75% MR BEFORE Potions or other special items are factored in).

yeah yeah i agree that might be true but monk gets more MR than heavily equipped paladin w/o any items or even hell bonuses. face it you can never beat a monk w/ MR... if a monk used all items + hell bonuses he would be over 100% w/o having to prepare for a battle... and with wisdom of 18, a monk's saving throw is low enough honestly, i think you are covering monk's advantages and exaggerating only their disadvantages. but i do think fighter could take any class one-on-one (dont mention spellcasters they are not discussion; they absolutely win tho)...

also i think someone said that there was a way for a monk to disarm a trap... i didnt play monks for too much but i cant figure out a way to actually disarm a trap... i know they detect them but there is no way to disarm them with thieving skill button because monks dont have one could somebody tell me?

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Tue Mar 19, 2002 2:21 am

ki-master2 made the comment too bad there was not a monk high level abilites pool, that gives you balthazar powers. you can add them with sk!! most like shadowless kick is actually smite, but cool animation, but one nice one, with a cool name combines a magic missile, and unresistable bigsbys crushing hand. so you can make someone bathazar like, at the character creation... I gueess this is actually a legit class...

but balthazar powers are one of the few that seems to work really well when added to a pc.