Dual classing Questions

Thorin1 · Post by **Thorin1** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 5:42 pm

I wanted to make a Fighter/Cleric much like Anoman ... only better. I wanted to start as a Fighter so that I could put 4 weapon proficiantcy points into War Hammer, 2 into Flail, and 3 into Dual Weapon Style. However When I dual class all those points disappear. I wanted to know if they come back eventually. Like when my character's Cleric level becomes higher than his Fighter level, or is there just no point in Leveling up as a Fighter?

Thanks in advance for the help

Thorin1 · Post by **Thorin1** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 5:44 pm

Ohh also, Will Crom Fayer (which raises his str to 25) actually help my character? I know that having over 16 strenth in a non-Fighter class doesn't do you any good, but since he is Dual Classed does he still get the thac0 and damage bonus's?

Ozmo · Post by **Ozmo** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 10:11 pm

I suppose they should come back, as the manual says you regain your previous class "powers" when you surpass it with your second class and Anomen has them too.

Having 25 strenght isn`t usefull for non-Fighters? It`s news to me (not that I`m a walking D&D rulebook or anything though)...

Thorin1 · Post by **Thorin1** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 10:58 pm

It does good as far as Carry Weight Capacity, but dammage and Thac0 do not increase as they do with a Fighter, but then again BG2 has some D&D rules a bit fudged, but I like them that way

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Wed Apr 17, 2002 1:44 am

Non-fighter classes also benefit from the THACO and Damage bonuses granted by high strength.

My assassin appreciated having the Girdle of Fire Giant Strength.

gnomethingy · Post by **gnomethingy** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:02 am

Your proficiencies certainly do come back.. and you can add to them as you get more also clerics have very good thaco to begin with (80% of a fighters I think..) try dualing at very low lvl and aside from the hp you wont notice much difference and there are many cleric spells that give you exellent hp bonus' all in all if you cast the right spells you will find him a far more potent figher than any fighter (until high lvl stuff like greater ww kicks in)
BTW.. Crom is very wasted on a cleric as draw apon holy might and rightous magic will easily get you to 25 strength and since there arnt many more good hammers until late in tob you might be better of going staves or maces or even clubs.. there LOTs of awesome clubs

Try choosing bezerker as your kit since you wont miss the missle profs and bezerk is a nice thing to have

Thorin1 · Post by **Thorin1** » Sun Apr 21, 2002 2:58 pm

Well, I wound up Dual Classing my Berzerker at level 10, (I figured out then that the next proficiantcy point was at 12 and that it wouldn't do much that much good.

The bad news is, I just got level 10 as a cleric, and guess what, those proficantcy points did not come back. I had placed 4 points into warhammer and 3 into Dual Weild, and now that my Berzerker class is no longer "inactive" I have the ability to enrage, but no war hammer skills, and no Dual Weild Skills. Is this a problem with BG2? or is this what its suppose to do? If its a fault in the game I will use Shadow Keeper to fix it, if not, I will just grit my teeth and bear with it. Ohh and how often to Clerics get weapon proficaintcy points?

Zelgadis · Post by **Zelgadis** » Sun Apr 21, 2002 4:31 pm

If you dual at lvl 10, you don't get that classes abilities back until you are lvl 11.

gnomethingy · Post by **gnomethingy** » Sun Apr 21, 2002 7:32 pm

you should get your profs back at lvl 11 but if for some reason you dont, bugs ext just use sk to add them back in... clerics get profs about the same speed as fithters I think.. not sure though

Mr Flibble · Post by **Mr Flibble** » Sun Apr 21, 2002 8:04 pm

Originally posted by Thorin1
Well, I wound up Dual Classing my Berzerker at level 10, (I figured out then that the next proficiantcy point was at 12 and that it wouldn't do much that much good.

You're better off dualling at levels 9 or 13, as these are where the fighter additional attacks per round are granted. Also fighter HP development seriously slows down after level 9. Save the Xp and be a more powerful cleric.

Thorin1 · Post by **Thorin1** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 2:56 am

Well, I freaked out for no reason, I did get the Prof's back at level 11, even though at level 10 my berzerker class was no longer "inactive". Thanks for the info though. Up to that point my Fighter recieved a Prof point every 3 levels, this was most certainly not true of the Cleric, atleast not while I was Dual classing him. Does anyone know for sure at what levels a Cleric gets his Prof Points?

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 3:07 am

Clerics gain another proficiency at the rate of one every four levels.