Help! I'm not evil enough!*story spoiler*

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Fri Mar 30, 2001 9:02 am

Playing the 2nd time with an evil party, I have problems with acting evil in a proper way.

I know you can side with Bodhi, and I know you can kill Adalon and take her blood, but what other evil alternatives are there? Killing Drizzt and his party seems more like a "concept" thing to do, since you can't keep their equipment anyway.
So far my game is turning out very similar to the 1st, probably because I don't really know how to play evil. I use different PNPC:s, but that's about it. Suggestions, anyone? What quests are different from when you play a good party?

Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Fri Mar 30, 2001 9:15 am

Kill slaves instead of killing Lehtinan in Copper Coronet.

The_Pope · Post by **The_Pope** » Fri Mar 30, 2001 9:16 am

ALWAYS choose the bad dialogue. Insult everyone you encounter (except the NPCs, or they'll leave).

Remember the Copper Coronet? Instead of getting te key for Hendak, go tell Lehtinan of Hendak's plans. He'll go kill Hendak

Sahuagin City: Do the king's job and kill the rebel prince.
Underdark: Kill the svirfnebli, kill Solaufein, kill all drow, kill Adalon.
And so on...

You have already finished the game once, so have some fun this time. Who cares if you say something wrong? If they complain, kill them!

Ceso · Post by **Ceso** » Fri Mar 30, 2001 9:20 am

Kill anyone that gives you crap. The ruffians along the streets of the Docks are my favorite.

There is an option to obtain the contracts for Firkragg for the land owned by the guy that takes you into his home. I never took that route, but it sounded evil.

Ceso

Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Fri Mar 30, 2001 9:27 am

Originally posted by The_Pope:

Sahuagin City: Do the king's job and kill the rebel prince.

So, the rebel prince was good ?
I'm asking because I killed them all there playing good party and my reputation wasn't lowered.

@C Elegans : If you play cleric try to kill everyone in Athcala (You know : prot.from evil 10radius, Gate,gate,gate.....

). Alaways try to provoke the battle. Cause more mess, more chaos, desolation...

("I cannot be caged, I cannot be controlled, now you die, ever pathetic, ever fools" - remember these wise Irenicus's words and in ToB became the Bhaal himself)

Kevin Dorner · Post by **Kevin Dorner** » Fri Mar 30, 2001 9:34 am

It's your game...if you only play slightly evilly, that's your choice. I've tried it and I didn't find it satisfying, and you don't seem to either.

There are degrees and methodologies to good and evil and everything else. Combine this with the pigeonholing reputation system and the opportunities for roleplaying are diminished. Why wouldn't a smart evil player or NPC want a good reputation? You can get a lot more done with one, when people trust you and think you're a hero. You can become a lot more powerful. Yet get a good rep. and the "smart" evil NPC's like Edwin walk out on you. Makes no sense. So just play how you want to, and don't worry if it's good or evil enough for anyone else.

There are other opportunities as well that good-aligned players never get to see. You can side with Firkraag and kill Garren Windspear for the deed to his land. You can poison the Druid Grove's holy font to get rid of Faldorn (and everyone else) rather than having Cernd or Jaheira fight her. But it's up to you.

One way of not doing truly evil acts, bu still not getting your reputation to rise is simply to ask for a reward when doing quests.

Vicsun · Post by **Vicsun** » Fri Mar 30, 2001 10:03 am

Just kill everything you see. If you are evil you wont mind changing into a slayer...

rapier · Post by **rapier** » Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:32 am

lol, about the Sahuagin, I did the King's mission, then killed the King too and got all the loot!

Ro´Jadre · Post by **Ro´Jadre** » Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:53 am

Side with the prince instead and double cross him, the king will disappear after you've completed the quest and you may not get the time to kill him.

Don't kill everything you see (just the ones that challange you in any way), don't get your reputation under 6, those knights/Cowled wizards that come after you are just annoying and not worth it (you have to pay very much more in shops too).

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Ro´Jadre - Mighty Kensai/Mage of the Council of Mages

[This message has been edited by Ro´Jadre (edited 03-30-2001).]

mizuno · Post by **mizuno** » Fri Mar 30, 2001 12:40 pm

and kill the silver dragon in the underdark

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Mizuno is a Proud Member of the Brotherhood of the Woods

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Fri Mar 30, 2001 4:49 pm

Thanks everybody! The reason I play evil is to see more alternatives in the game, but it doesn't really suit me, I think. Thanks for all you help, I have already missed out on the slavers quest - never crossed my mind I could double cross Hendak. He seemed such a nice guy...

sigurd · Post by **sigurd** » Sat Mar 31, 2001 9:30 am

If i side with Lehtinan in copper coronet, can i gain access to Bernards secret stash then?

The_Pope · Post by **The_Pope** » Sat Mar 31, 2001 9:44 am

Originally posted by sigurd:
If i side with Lehtinan in copper coronet, can i gain access to Bernards secret stash then?

Yes.

sigurd · Post by **sigurd** » Sat Mar 31, 2001 9:54 am

Been playing the game twice, evil as berzerker/cleric and good as paladin. Somehow trying to be good feels so wrong, doesnt suit me at all. I always play evil, cant change my style.

Disagree with Kevin about being evil and having high rep. Just read the descriptions about being evil, and people would seeyou were evil. Why help rescuing a child from some monsters just to get thepeople tolike you? - unless a bigreward is in it of course!

ThorinOakensfield · Post by **ThorinOakensfield** » Sat Mar 31, 2001 10:34 am

You can:
Kill Aeeire while she's an ogre.
Corrupt Anomen
Leave Mazzy in the prison.
Leave Misnc and Jaheria in their cells
Let Viconia burn
Kill Valgyar to enter the Planar Sphere
Let Jan get arrested
Kill all the cowled wizards
Start fighting inside the Order of the Most Radiant Heart
Kill Perth the Adept
Kill all the drow slaves
When you are a drow kill all the deep gnomes and gray dwarves
Be mean to all the whining npcs
Don't romance with anybody except Viconia or a cray Anomen if thats possoble
Kill all people who steal from you
Side with Bodhi
Kill all the Lathander priests
Don't take Imoen in your party even though she is your sister

sigurd · Post by **sigurd** » Sat Mar 31, 2001 12:43 pm

Let viconia burn? what kind of a monster are you??

Yeah, depending on your role you can do those things. I did free Minsc and Jaheira, only to get out (used the, and told them so too), my char is neutral evil. Depends on alignment and your own style

Loredweller · Post by **Loredweller** » Sat Mar 31, 2001 1:00 pm

Originally posted by Manveru:
So, the rebel prince was good ?
I'm asking because I killed them all there playing good party and my reputation wasn't lowered.

They are all assumed evil, so you lose nothing save but items. Seems, the prince is a true son of the King, so there is no difference between good and evil.

L.

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