marriage vs. partnership

Dottie · Post by **Dottie** » Fri Apr 12, 2002 10:25 am

Originally posted by Sailor Saturn

Have you ever felt moved by the reading of a poem, or the playing of a symphony, or some other thing?

Yes.... *looks around nervously* what is your point?

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Fri Apr 12, 2002 3:27 pm

Originally posted by Dottie

Yes.... *looks around nervously* what is your point?

Then you have percieved the spiritual.

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Fri Apr 12, 2002 3:39 pm

Originally posted by Sailor Saturn

Then you have percieved the spiritual.

Not necessarily, I've felt moved to boredom and annoyance by reading poetry. Just because a poem is considered cultural and 'spiritual' (whatever that decides it wants to mean) doesn't mean that you percieve what you call spiritual. What does being moved by something have to do with spiritual. According to you, if I was moved to boredom by a poem, then I have percieved the spirtual, become enlightened and have awoken my spirit to the world. I don't believe in that tosh. A poem inspires emotion. It makes you feel something because you can relate to it, you appreciate it, or you understand what it means. The spiritual is something inside of you apparently, but I fail to see what spirit has to do with poetry or symphonies. It is the emotion that is created through the listening of these things that causes some kind of reaction.

Dottie · Post by **Dottie** » Fri Apr 12, 2002 3:50 pm

Originally posted by Sailor Saturn

Then you have percieved the spiritual.

I cant see how. Imo I have percived emotions, if the spiritual is nothing more to you then emotions you are right, but I guess it isnt?

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Fri Apr 12, 2002 3:59 pm

Originally posted by Dottie

I cant see how. Imo I have percived emotions, if the spiritual is nothing more to you then emotions you are right, but I guess it isnt?

I agree with you completely. (See my post above.

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Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Fri Apr 12, 2002 4:31 pm

Originally posted by Nippy
Not necessarily, I've felt moved to boredom and annoyance by reading poetry. Just because a poem is considered cultural and 'spiritual' (whatever that decides it wants to mean) doesn't mean that you percieve what you call spiritual. What does being moved by something have to do with spiritual. According to you, if I was moved to boredom by a poem, then I have percieved the spirtual, become enlightened and have awoken my spirit to the world. I don't believe in that tosh. A poem inspires emotion. It makes you feel something because you can relate to it, you appreciate it, or you understand what it means. The spiritual is something inside of you apparently, but I fail to see what spirit has to do with poetry or symphonies. It is the emotion that is created through the listening of these things that causes some kind of reaction.

The emotion is a part of your spirit. When a symphony touches you and moves you(and you know very well that I don't mean boredom), your spirit is touched by something in the music, and that is where the emotion comes from. If the music does not move you(at which point you become bored), then it has not touched your spirit and the emotions do not come.

I'm also not talking about "enlightenment." Go find a Buddhist if you want to discuss that.

Jace · Post by **Jace** » Thu May 09, 2002 6:05 am

This thread seems to have drifted off topic and then died. I am bumping it as it looks like the best place for this post.

To fill in a bit of background (so you don't have to search through here for anything relevant) I have lived with my girl fiend for about 15 years. This is getting close to half of her life - she is 32 now, you do the math - and almost the same for me. We have lived in the UK for the last 8 years and are very happy.

Anyway, we have now decided to tie the knot. On the 22 of this month I will be an old married man. Currently I do not feel that I will be any more married than I am now just for having the ceremony, but that may change afterwards. It will be interesting to find out.

We are having a small, non religious civil ceremony and then going for lunch. There will be only about 6 of us as most of our close freinds live in Aus. I don't have any nerves regarding the day, but I am having a bucks night next weekend - that coulds be messy.

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Thu May 09, 2002 6:10 am

Originally posted by Jace
This thread seems to have drifted off topic and then died. I am bumping it as it looks like the best place for this post.

To fill in a bit of background (so you don't have to search through here for anything relevant) I have lived with my girl fiend for about 15 years. This is getting close to half of her life - she is 32 now, you do the math - and almost the same for me. We have lived in the UK for the last 8 years and are very happy.

Anyway, we have now decided to tie the knot. On the 22 of this month I will be an old married man. Currently I do not feel that I will be any more married than I am now just for having the ceremony, but that may change afterwards. It will be interesting to find out.

We are having a small, non religious civil ceremony and then going for lunch. There will be only about 6 of us as most of our close freinds live in Aus. I don't have any nerves regarding the day, but I am having a bucks night next weekend - that coulds be messy.

Congratulations to you my friend, I hope you enjoy the service. You obviously love the bride.

Good luck!

(And don't get to wrecked...

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Ode to a Grasshopper · Thu May 09, 2002 6:13 am

Hey, congrats, Jace!

Out of curiousity, what made you decide to get officially "married"? I've already made my POV clear re. marriage vs. partnership, and I tend to agree that it probably won't make a difference, BTW.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Thu May 09, 2002 6:17 am

Originally posted by Jace
We are having a small, non religious civil ceremony and then going for lunch. There will be only about 6 of us as most of our close freinds live in Aus. I don't have any nerves regarding the day, but I am having a bucks night next weekend - that coulds be messy.

Try not to get attached to any telegraph polls

Hope it all goes well

Jace · Post by **Jace** » Thu May 09, 2002 6:19 am

@Ode, Long story.

Quick version. Mother-in-law not too well. Both in-laws will be in Glasgow then.

By the way, haven't told in-laws yet, just told them we are taking them out that day. May tell them the night before. Also have not told witnesses. May tell them on the day.

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Thu May 09, 2002 6:22 am

So no Stag night celebrations then?

Congratulations, Jace!

Jace · Post by **Jace** » Thu May 09, 2002 8:15 am

@Ysh,

Stag night is next Saturday. That is the bit I am worried about

Azmodan · Post by **Azmodan** » Thu May 09, 2002 8:26 am

mingle, mingle!

just to speak my mind!...

Well i live together with my boyfriend, and we have lived together for 2½ years. (see the Pic thread, he is the one sitting next to me).. we are Not married, but in Denmark, maby you get some good things out of marriage.. but you are allso bound together financially. I remember what i fuss it was, when me and my daughters father moved away from eahother. And basicly i never wan't to be in that situation again. It's a little bit (no ALOT) more secure for me, just living together. And in my mind, you do not have to have papers on eacother to love. I wounden't mind his surname though.. mine is boring!.
And speaking about ages.. He (my BF) is 5½ years younger than me. he only just turned 21. And that makes him 1 year younger than my own little brother!.. what can i say?! Love knows no color or age!

Beldin · Post by **Beldin** » Wed Jul 03, 2002 7:13 am

A <BUMP>.

It's allowed - even to the unmarried...

No worries,

Beldin

Ode to a Grasshopper · Wed Jul 03, 2002 7:27 am

Good to see this thread resurface, it's one of my favourites.

Georgi · Post by **Georgi** » Wed Jul 03, 2002 7:33 am

But is there anything more to say in it?

Beldin · Post by **Beldin** » Wed Jul 03, 2002 7:38 am

Originally posted by Georgi
But is there anything more to say in it?

Could be....since the Thread went down some new members have appeared, so I thought it good to bump it -to give our newer SYMbionts the possibility to add their comments...

No worries,

Beldin

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Wed Jul 03, 2002 7:40 am

Originally posted by Beldin
Could be....since the Thread went down some new members have appeared, so I thought it good to bump it -to give our newer SYMbionts the possibility to add their comments...

You could try to create a new and interesting thread. I would be surprised if there are any new posters in a thread this large, most likely the newbies would be too intimidated to post in such a thread

Ode to a Grasshopper · Wed Jul 03, 2002 7:43 am

Originally posted by Georgi
But is there anything more to say in it?

That didn't stop anyone around 20 pages back...