BS's jouney thru SYM's tunnels ISO love

CM · Post by CM » Thu May 09, 2002 3:29 am

Vacation for 2 weeks and then i have 1 class left. Once week, it is a overview, also today is ascension (spelling???) so the whole country is shut down. So me and gamebanshee as well as a pakistani politics site all day today!

T'lainya · Post by **T'lainya** » Thu May 09, 2002 8:46 am

Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
Actually, until I get to know people I get the whole shy thing online as well. Well, that and the fact that up until joining here I was always a bit dubious about internet forums.

And now you're completely terrified of them?

Dottie · Post by **Dottie** » Thu May 09, 2002 9:05 am

The tale of Bloodstakers journey must continue. I suggest we evacuate the spam and focus our efforts on persuading BS to entertain us.

Ode to a Grasshopper · Thu May 09, 2002 9:10 am

Originally posted by T'lainya

And now you're completely terrified of them?

More or less correct. Now I'm extremely dubious about them.

@Dottie-I promised Beldin and Eerhardt I wouldn't move the Rolling Thunder without them. You should talk to Beldin if you want to discuss changing locations; he's the driver after all.
We're really only here to prove a point.

Obsidian · Post by **Obsidian** » Thu May 09, 2002 10:49 pm

At what point did this turn from a set of BS's amusing antics to a drunken rolling party? Not that I'm complaining, a very good idea, I suppose it is in the spirit of BS, but stop distracting the man (?) from his quest!! Have a lil respect for a love lorn hermit!!

Ode to a Grasshopper · Fri May 10, 2002 12:00 am

I think this is where we set up shop here, and more observant members will see why we did so here.

I do hope we've made our point.

Eerhardt · Post by **Eerhardt** » Fri May 10, 2002 12:26 am

the actions of Eerhardt

Originally posted by Vivien
Eerhardt: Have a good day What kind of training?

XML-training (Extensible Markup Language. Sort of HTML meta-language).

@Azmodan: nice new avatar
@Sleep: you're no fun. Perhaps you should try the hot-tub, then?
@CM: congrats on propably acing the test
@Ode: I think we've made our point. In case we haven't: there's three Rolling Thunder SLURRs now, people!
@all: Cheers! ** lights a Buck's FIZZ and starts drinking **

Ode to a Grasshopper · Fri May 10, 2002 1:08 am

**Goes to the bar and gets a BsF. Lights it and drinks, then belches a massive fireball**

I think Azzy's new sig is pretty sweet, too. AbFab is so cool.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri May 10, 2002 4:04 am

Re: the actions of Eerhardt

Originally posted by Eerhardt
XML-training (Extensible Markup Language. Sort of HTML meta-language).

I feel sorry for you man

@Sleep: you're no fun. Perhaps you should try the hot-tub, then?

If you can provide some partners of the female persuasion i am there!

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Fri May 10, 2002 4:09 am

LOL Sleep, there's nothing wrong with XML. It is, unlike HTML, a semantically loaded language. Perfect for Database bods like myself.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri May 10, 2002 4:22 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy
LOL Sleep, there's nothing wrong with XML. It is, unlike HTML, a semantically loaded language. Perfect for Database bods like myself.

So like or unlike php?

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Fri May 10, 2002 4:45 am

Well, PHP just serves the necessary pages doesn't it?

I thought XML was convenient 'cos you could use a style sheet to add semantic content to the page as required but you can do this with PHP anyway. XML's real strength is inter-operability and compatability. It is also self-defining. That's the main semantic strength. It can carry its meaning to anyone, not just relying on <b> and <emphasis> tags.

Eerhardt · Post by **Eerhardt** » Fri May 10, 2002 5:12 am

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Originally posted by Gruntboy
XML's real strength is inter-operability and compatability. It is also self-defining. That's the main semantic strength. It can carry its meaning to anyone, not just relying on <b> and <emphasis> tags.

I can only concur

** downs an E.S.S. and offers Grunty a Buck's Fizz ** Sleep, it seems members of the female pursuasion decided not to go hot-tubbing today (yet)

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri May 10, 2002 5:42 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy
Well, PHP just serves the necessary pages doesn't it?

I thought XML was convenient 'cos you could use a style sheet to add semantic content to the page as required but you can do this with PHP anyway. XML's real strength is inter-operability and compatability. It is also self-defining. That's the main semantic strength. It can carry its meaning to anyone, not just relying on <b> and <emphasis> tags.

Sounds good, my only problem with Stylesheets is when they are inproperly applied, one of our clients once created one of their own sites that was entirely impossible to edit because it was created by a program that used stylesheets for everything

I use style sheets occasionally for things like mousover links and what not, i will investigate it

@Eerhardt, i can wait....

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Fri May 10, 2002 6:20 am

I see what you mean Sleep. CSS's can be a pain - its alright having a format to apply to pages but you can't then just tweak the odd page detail here and there.

Main advantage of CSS with XML is these user defined tags.

Say you define tags from DB fields - <name>, <DoB>, <Address>. You then tell the CSS to format any XML file with these fields in a particuler way:

<name> bright blue 6" letters
<DoB> bold
<Address> New paragraph with a <HR>

Then the CSS can be changed to display the XML tags any way you want.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri May 10, 2002 6:33 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy
I see what you mean Sleep. CSS's can be a pain - its alright having a format to apply to pages but you can't then just tweak the odd page detail here and there.

Main advantage of CSS with XML is these user defined tags.

Say you define tags from DB fields - <name>, <DoB>, <Address>. You then tell the CSS to format any XML file with these fields in a particuler way:

<name> bright blue 6" letters
<DoB> bold
<Address> New paragraph with a <HR>

Then the CSS can be changed to display the XML tags any way you want.

Thanks for the info Grunt, i had figured it was something like that, i will stick to my HTML for now

I imgine it takes as long to learn all the tags as it does with HTML?

So what do you write in Grunt?

Eerhardt · Post by **Eerhardt** » Fri May 10, 2002 6:38 am

the actions of Eerhardt

** moves to secret laboratory and returns a while later with a fresh batch of Massive Chug C0cktail ** I figure it doesn't take too long to learn the tags, as we only have 4 training course sessions planned. Care to try some of the MC² while you wait, Sleep?

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri May 10, 2002 6:44 am

Re: the actions of Eerhardt

Originally posted by Eerhardt
I figure it doesn't take too long to learn the tags, as we only have 4 training course sessions planned. Care to try some of the MC² while you wait, Sleep?

What are you planning on doing with your knowledge? Is it also compatible with everything in the same way as HTML?

That depends.....what's in it?

Eerhardt · Post by **Eerhardt** » Fri May 10, 2002 6:53 am

the actions of Eerhardt

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
What are you planning on doing with your knowledge? Is it also compatible with everything in the same way as HTML?

That depends.....what's in it?

Massive Chug C0cktails or MC² are composed of E.S.S., C.C.B. and E.C.h.C. The improved version is nuked with proton particles in the proton accelerator. MC² is known to have a few side-effects...

I'm probably going to use XML to define own tags for requests and experiment on using different style sheets. I believe you need a special parser to generate XML tags.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri May 10, 2002 7:07 am

Re: the actions of Eerhardt

Originally posted by Eerhardt
Massive Chug C0cktails or MC² are composed of E.S.S., C.C.B. and E.C.h.C. The improved version is nuked with proton particles in the proton accelerator. MC² is known to have a few side-effects...

Well i suppose i could, if you don't hear from me for a while, blame the drink

I'm probably going to use XML to define own tags for requests and experiment on using different style sheets. I believe you need a special parser to generate XML tags.

I meant what is the end result of you knowing XML, how will it change you as a person