What is the group in the end of BGII. ??!!!!???

Sethir · Post by **Sethir** » Tue May 08, 2001 2:10 am

In final movie of BGII. , there was a group of monks (or directors of bhaalspawns ?) sitted around table with bhaalsymbol.
They speaked about me (that I am so powerfull). WHO THEY ARE?
thnx for answers
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Kayless · Post by **Kayless** » Tue May 08, 2001 3:01 am

That’s the Amn Adult Bowling League. They’re worried that you’ll steal their trophy from them (they've held the championship title for five years running).

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Rail · Post by **Rail** » Tue May 08, 2001 3:07 am

I have a level 23 Bowler dualled to a mage with the experience cap removed! Completely legit! I think I can take 'em!

Most people (okay, mainly myself) assume they're priests of Bhaal. They kinda leave it open ended and I assume they'll clarify it in ToB. They for sure aren't the Cowled Wizards cuz I killed 'em all.

Cursed mages!

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Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Tue May 08, 2001 3:10 am

ooohhh... My cleric will kick their @$$e$ in ToB.....

I'm sure.

Kayless · Post by **Kayless** » Tue May 08, 2001 3:20 am

At first I thought they were harpers who had decided you were too big a threat to live. But this is highly unlikely; given their abrasive personalities (they call you a fool and say you’re doomed: Cliché villain dialogue). For a while I believed they were priests of Cyric who wanted to stop you before you could wrench the murder portfolio from their god. But that theory is belied by the presence of Bhaal’s icon on the table they’re sitting at. Rail’s opinion that they’re priests of Bhaal is a sound one, though they seem to have hedged their bet on someone else ascending to godhood. Maybe Sarevok was their boy. After all, he did have a priest of Bhaal approach him and explain his lineage (Read his diary in Baldur’s Gate for details) as well as another mentor who helped him escape from the Ducal Palace after his coronation fiasco (whom he also killed). So the answer is we don’t have a clue who they are. They could very well be the Amn Adult Bowling League for all we know!

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cheesemage · Post by **cheesemage** » Tue May 08, 2001 3:47 am

No its the Tethry Bowling League Because we arent going back to amn in tob........
maybe they are The council of six even though theres more than six people.....

Blobbas · Post by **Blobbas** » Tue May 08, 2001 4:19 am

I guess they're either some of the other children of bhaal, or they're maybe priests of bhaal.

They are saying that you will soon die, so maybe they don't like that you're some cind of "good-guy" who's saving the elves from Irenicus etc..

vbarash · Post by **vbarash** » Tue May 08, 2001 3:38 pm

Hey man, my fighter just got five proficiencies in bowling ball

so I'll make sort work of these guys.

It'd be great if in the end you could duke it out with all the other sons/daughters of Bhaal (a fighter, thief, etc.)

dafreak · Post by **dafreak** » Tue May 08, 2001 3:41 pm

I personally think they are the Cowled Wizards.

cheesemage · Post by **cheesemage** » Tue May 08, 2001 3:47 pm

dont forget the gloves of blowing enhancement
and the amulet of Meta Ball Influence

Drakron Du´Dark · Post by **Drakron Du´Dark** » Tue May 08, 2001 3:53 pm

No, they are NOT Cowled wizards.
Trust me on that

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As for the prists of Bhaal (but if they are still clerics I dont know, Cyric still gives the spells to the clerics that still worship some of the "not-so-dead" gods

) idea I quite agree with that, since they are the only ones that recive anything from Bhaal getting back...

Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Tue May 08, 2001 11:23 pm

And what do you think about the following simple intrigue :

these guys are really priests of Bhaal and they worship Cyric so far only to destroy him using one of the children of Bhaal that finally (after defeating Cyric) becomes new Bhaal - evil ending of ToB.

these guys are disappointed the behaviour of PC which is too good and finally they try to destroy him with Cyric (who knows that child of Bhaal is potentialy dangerous - especially if it is PC with say, 30 level)

Rail · Post by **Rail** » Tue May 08, 2001 11:40 pm

I like the idea of differing endings depending upon choices you've made throughout the game or on your alignment. However, I hope it isn't like the ending of BG2, with only minor differences.

BTW- does anyone know if Archers get bonuses with bowling balls, cuz if so, I'm set! Two words for ya, baby: called shot!

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Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 8:48 am

So who are they?

Mr. Sprinkles · Post by **Mr. Sprinkles** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 9:25 am

They're most likely the 5 'major Bhallspawn' that are in TOB.

ki-master2 · Post by **ki-master2** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 9:35 am

I don't believe they explain this in tob or do they?(Have you ever found the golden ball+3,Cespenar can upgrade it to +6)

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 9:58 am

Dave Gaider said they were "bad guys", and after being flamed a bit for such an uninformative answer he admitted that they were they Five, but at that time their concepts were not done yet.

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Thu Aug 16, 2001 10:48 pm

There are 7 of the at the table, and they all appear human.

sigurd · Post by **sigurd** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 12:37 am

The only one of the 5 that resembles one of the 5 would be Balthazar. But that might be right though, he could talk to his disciples.

However, the way they speak makes me think they are not Bhaalspawns themselves. "the child of bhaal" they say, wouldnt say if they werent themselves...

Raphtyr · Post by **Raphtyr** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 5:19 am

You've got the answer right there. Just poor work on Bioware's part. The Five were originally intended to be the Seven, and they were all to be human or Humanoid.

As for your attempts to integrate them into the story, It's impossible to come to any foregone conclusion because of the above fact. You could conceiveably put them as Cowled wizards, but I prefer to see them as Maybe Balthazar and his top Generals. Or alternately they could be an unknown Bhaalspwn affiliation, not unlike the five, but destroyed by circumstances unknown to you.