Why aren't I playing NWN?

Bobsy · Post by **Bobsy** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 1:08 pm

I'll tell you why. I don't live in the USA. It seems that some people consider me, because of this, to be a lower class of person. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but Neverwinter Nights was designed by a Canadian company, and published (and this really cuts) by a French company. Yet France, Britain and the rest of the world other than good ol' North America have to wait ten days for it to be released.

Now, in their defence, a little bit of jiggerypokery does need to be performed to make the game work on international systems. NTSC/PAL conversion, for example. And translating all the dialogue to the respective languages. However, these are both pretty major tasks, and both would take longer than ten days. International distribution? No more than two days longer than driving trucks around the US.

So... scraping the barrel for Infogrammes's excuses: marketing. USA is a far bigger market than, uh, England. Yeah. Waaay more people buy videogames west of the ocean, man.

Yeah, guys. Not that we want to forget that there are way more people in the USA than in Britain. No no no. And how nice that you're fudging the facts by treating each country seperately. Good one.

I'm open to suggestions why the rest of the world is being screwed over. I am willing to learn. Thing is, I can't think of a single good reason.

smass · Post by **smass** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 1:18 pm

You pretty much outlined why we get it first - bigger market, most disoposable income. Capitalism won after all

Fo all the crap we Yanks take there are still some big advantages to living here - like.....well.....I guess getting NWN qualifies - although I can't think of anything else

Bobsy · Post by **Bobsy** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 2:35 pm

Yes, but there's the rub, see. The market is only smaller because the population is smaller. Proportionally, the games-playing sectors of the US and UK populations are pretty much the same, and for the rest of the developed world as well.

I'm about to swear now. If you are under 18, easily offended or religious in any way, look away now. In fact, you should probably look away anyway, just in case.

****ing capitalism.

Bobsy · Post by **Bobsy** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 2:37 pm

Aw, it blanked it out. Let's try again. Same rules as before. Turn away and think of fluffy bunnies and rainbows. Picture them. Got it? Good.

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Pebz · Post by **Pebz** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 2:47 pm

Relax man, its really not a big deal...

PS. remove the last part of your post before a mod sees it...

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 2:49 pm

I was just about to say that Pebz. @ Bobsy, I suggest you remove the profanities from the board. Why else would we have a filter?

Magus · Post by **Magus** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 2:58 pm

I second Nippy and Pebz. And so what if you get games 10 days later? You still get them. There's far worse things than that to get upset about.

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 3:00 pm

Originally posted by Bobsy

I'm open to suggestions why the rest of the world is being screwed over. I am willing to learn. Thing is, I can't think of a single good reason.

Though it is frustrating, I do not feel 'screwed over' by not having the game first. Hit the biggest market....hit the market that has no qualms about complaining if things aren't right...then we get the game and the patch is out already.

btw - avoiding the filters will get you into trouble....

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 3:50 pm

@Bobsy:
Abide to the forum rules!

http://www.gamebanshee.com/sitefeatures/forumrules.php

And btw - speaking as a european gamer, I'd say 10 days is the least delay I've ever seen in a game from the states to europe.

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Kerwyn · Post by **Kerwyn** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 5:06 pm

@ Xandax
I agree 10 days to Europe is very quick, really nothing to complain about, of course were not among those who wait longest in Denmark because we dont need a translated version. I do like the way Blizzard makes worldwide releases though, and i feel that you have to give them some credit for that.

Trix · Post by **Trix** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 5:10 pm

Screw capitalism.
Vote socialist.

Pebz · Post by **Pebz** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 5:16 pm

Originally posted by Trix
Screw capitalism.
Vote socialist.

Thats unnecessary spam... only topic related replys please

Ylossakram · Post by **Ylossakram** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 11:02 pm

I'm not posting to complain too (i'm european and still waitin

) but not long ago we debated 'bout the great delay of the game 'cause of the worldwide release date to stop piracy (lol, it's on every damn server on the net already ...

) that Bioware claimed .... well, this didn't happen and we'll still have it in english (no prob at all for me even 'cause translations are 90% of the time lame) 'cause the release date for the translated version is September 9th.
I repeat, i'm not complainin 'cause a week or 10 days are nothin but a bit more of sincerity and respect would have been much appreciated ...

PS: For all the european fellows ... see it this way --> the game looks like has some bugs, when we'll get it the patches are out already

Let's go get some fresh air 'cause from Friday we'll have to live a new adventure

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Mon Jun 24, 2002 12:17 am

@Trix: Don't spam in this forum.
Take such posts to SYM.

Make relavent post onlys people, pls.

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kopywrite · Post by **kopywrite** » Mon Jun 24, 2002 1:59 am

Originally posted by Bobsy
Yes, but there's the rub, see. The market is only smaller because the population is smaller. Proportionally, the games-playing sectors of the US and UK populations are pretty much the same, and for the rest of the developed world as well.

I'm about to swear now. If you are under 18, easily offended or religious in any way, look away now. In fact, you should probably look away anyway, just in case.

****ing capitalism.

You're bemoaning the distributors for being *BAD WORD* capitalists...because you CAN'T buy their product?? Looks to me like Interplay have adopted an anti-globilization policy -- you should be congratulating them! (J/K

)

Seriously, it is getting better...look at the console market for an indication of how bad things could be. Movie distribution also used to be pretty bad but that seems to have recently improved too (at least for the UK anyway).

Bobsy · Post by **Bobsy** » Mon Jun 24, 2002 3:34 am

Originally posted by Xandax
@Bobsy:
And btw - speaking as a european gamer, I'd say 10 days is the least delay I've ever seen in a game from the states to europe.

Jeeper cripes*, man. Just because it's the least delay (it isn't) doesn't make it right. There is absolutely NO reason (no-one's come up with one) why there's a ten day delay. So why should we find this acceptable? Answer: we shouldn't.

Oh, and on the swearing thing? Don't be so harsh. I did put in masses of warnings for anyone who may be offended. That's why they were there, see? I think a little more liberality with language would be very much appreciated, considering the majority of posters on these boards are very mature and can deal with it.

*see how nice and restrained I am with my language now? How good of you to correct me in the error of my ways.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Mon Jun 24, 2002 5:33 am

Originally posted by Bobsy

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Oh, and on the swearing thing? Don't be so harsh. I did put in masses of warnings for anyone who may be offended. That's why they were there, see? I think a little more liberality with language would be very much appreciated, considering the majority of posters on these boards are very mature and can deal with it.

*see how nice and restrained I am with my language now? How good of you to correct me in the error of my ways.

Warn all you like - Abide to the forum rules!

And if posters are mature - there is absolutly no reason for profanity - that is the sign of the immature.

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Crosswind · Post by **Crosswind** » Mon Jun 24, 2002 9:18 am

Actually, several reasons which were listed by Bioware.

1.) Manpower limitations. They have to translate all of it.

2.) Shipping limitations. Albeit not a big deal, but a deal nonetheless.

Basically, it takes a tad more time to get it marketable.

And changing "Color" to "Colour" everywhere takes so damn long...

-Cross

Rudar Dimble · Post by **Rudar Dimble** » Tue Jun 25, 2002 1:52 pm

@Xandax: totally agree with you on the forum rules.

I think Crosswinds is right. There is much work that we don't think of.