Things you know you should like...but just don't.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Mon Jul 22, 2002 10:09 am

Originally posted by McBane
Moby **** - It took me forever to read. Ugh! I should have stuck to the Cliff notes....

Robinson Cruesoe is another one along the same lines, i was just incredibly bored...

humanflyz · Post by **humanflyz** » Mon Jul 22, 2002 6:38 pm

Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinions.

fable · Post by **fable** » Mon Jul 22, 2002 7:26 pm

Moby Dic! seems to me one of the most anally detailed, overly-symbolized books in history. I wonder how many people who rave about it have ever actually read the thing, rather than seen the movie?

Delacroix · Post by **Delacroix** » Mon Jul 22, 2002 9:39 pm

Intersting topic,

I don't like/understand anything related to Fashion/Vogue (I don't know the exact word[related to models] I'm not talking about one stilist or other, I'm taking about them all), I simply cannot see art there. I also cannot understand how can the continent be more ïmportant than the content of the work.

Modern/Contemporaneous dance, some call it as Dance of Corporal expression; I Don't understand and also don't like this concept of art.

Italian's most famous Renascence painters: Da Vinci, Michelangelo; For me both have little expressive artist importance, as painters.

Caviar

.(But the majority of the people I know agree with me that it's not anything of marvelous).

In my ignorance, and distaste, i cannot sense the diference of a normal(good) wine to the most finnests French Wine. For me, is all the same. I can only sense when it is of a very very low quality( normally national kind).

By MrSleep:
Oh another thing i just don't get...The Beatles, I am ashamed to admit it but they just don't do anything for me, i guess it is the foppish hair and good looks that just ruin it for me

The first phase of the band is, also IMO, nothing. But near St. Peppers is diferent.

Ode to a Grasshopper · Mon Jul 22, 2002 9:45 pm

I like The Bends and OK Computer, but it's just because I like the music, rather than because I think it's particularly innovative.

Here's one which I'm surprised no-one has mentioned yet: Beer. I don't like the taste, and it takes more to get me drunk than something like vodka or a nice whiskey.
Port is nice, though.

frogus · Post by **frogus** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 2:19 am

I suddenly feel a might too appreciative.

I liked Moby D!ck, love Michelangelo, listen to OK Computer about once every three days, own two copies of the Bends and like beer (a bit...)

Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinions.

You are wrong.

Kameleon · Post by **Kameleon** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 2:33 am

Hmm, I think this is the bit where I stick my head in the door and totally agree with frogus...HOW can ANYONE not like Radiohead??

?? Weirdos

Hey frog-man - I've got 2 copies of The Bends as well. Strange...

Oh and Ode, I know what you mean about beer, I drink it more because of the social side than because I like it - oh and I drink vodka quickly enough that I'd be wasted before my mates had finished the first pint...

McBane · Post by **McBane** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 10:48 am

Originally posted by frogus
I suddenly feel a might too appreciative.

I liked Moby D!ck, love Michelangelo, listen to OK Computer about once every three days, own two copies of the Bends and like beer (a bit...) You are wrong.

Did you actually read Moby D!ck?? I found the book to be so confusing, and very difficult to follow. While I didn't mind the movie, I really struggled to read the book. (I read the book first)

The Z · Post by **The Z** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 11:09 am

Coffee?

McBane · Post by **McBane** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 11:12 am

Originally posted by The Z
Coffee?

I don't like coffee either. It seems to be an acquired taste, and I have never felt the need to drink it enough to like it. On the other hand, I did drink enough Scotch to acquire a taste for that!

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 11:15 am

Originally posted by The Z
Coffee?

Leave my coffee out of this!

@Georgi: Leave Floyd alone. They have some of the greatest tracks (next to Zepplins Stairway to Heaven) Also, their music is trippy if you listen to it the right way. On top of that, if you play the album "Dark Side of the Moon" to Wizard of Oz, you'll find that the movie and album play almost in unison.; )

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 11:20 am

I love Shakespeare, I however dislike his comedies, especially those filled with slap-stick and stupid puns. The plays I think are his greatest, and certainly belongs to the world literature, are his tragedies and chronicles. I am not so fond of his poetry, although some parts of the sonnets are fab (those about time and decay for instance). Shakespeare is however also the author of one of the worst lines of poetry ever written in the English language:

Lovely neck, no speck

Beatles - Some of their later stuff (Sgt Pepper, White Album, Abbey Road) is pure genious musically speaking, I just don't like it anyway.

Pink Floyd: Again, I see how innovative they were and their importance for development of contemporary pop music, but I just don't enjoy them.

As for Radiohead, I think they have made a couple of good songs, but they can hardly be described niether as ground-breaking for musical developement or very innovative. Besides, I lost all respect for Thom Yorke when he said their biggest idols are are REM, and that they try to sound like them.

The Z · Post by **The Z** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 11:27 am

Never been a fan of rock from the 80's to early 90's (then again, being born in the late 80's has put me in a different childhood environment). As for Shakespeare, it's true.....his comedies have never appealed to me the same way Hamlet, Macbeth, Julius Ceaser, Henry the Fifth, Romeo & Juliet did.

Georgi · Post by **Georgi** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 11:35 am

Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
Here's one which I'm surprised no-one has mentioned yet: Beer. I don't like the taste, and it takes more to get me drunk than something like vodka or a nice whiskey.

I was about to say that!

It tastes horrible, why do people want to drink it?

I don't drink coffee or tea either, generally... I especially don't get why people like tea. *shrugs*

@Aegis shan't

Stairway To Heaven is overrated and all.

Although Rolf Harris' version has a certain je ne sais quoi... Ok, so I like Stairway, I'm just being argumentative for the sake of it now...

Word · Post by **Word** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 11:36 am

nothing by shakespeare appeals to me(too many words me thinks??? )

i just cant get into radiohead or coffee or pink floyd

BUT MY BAND ROCKAS i dont kno if i can say our name here

Azmodan · Post by **Azmodan** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 1:57 pm

gawd!.

i have the same thing with Leo Tolstoy. he is just too boring!

Lord of the flies: boring!

Jazz music: boring!

nitting: extra boring!

Robnark · Post by **Robnark** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 2:34 pm

actually, Lord of the Flies bored the hell out of me too, but that was mostly because i was forced to do GCSE coursework on it.

humanflyz · Post by **humanflyz** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 3:52 pm

Wait a minute, I never said I didn't like Radiohead the band, I just didn't like that one specific album "OK Computer". I'll acknowledge that "Fitter Happier" and "Paranoid Android" may be two of the most conceptually brilliant songs I've probably heard in my entire life, but to me that doesn't justify everybody raving about them and calling them ground-breaking or monumental. Some of the "OK Computer" songs are just too slow for me. I own all of Radiohead's albums, but only the first two I like a lot. Their music just seem to get more abstract with age and less accessible to me. It's like they turned reclusive and weird and decided to make music not for the listeners, but for themselves. At least, that's my opinion.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 3:58 pm

Originally posted by humanflyz
It's like they turned reclusive and weird and decided to make music not for the listeners, but for themselves. At least, that's my opinion.

Okay this will be my last comment in this thread about opinions on music (since it is a long subject) but i think that music should be made first for the band then for the listener, when you make music for the listener you end up contriving it so that they think it is good rather than yourself, art should be made for oneself first then the viewer...feel free to start a seperate thread if you disagree with me

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 4:33 pm

Please, no more particular commenting on particular bands of albums please, only short comments regarding why you don't like stuff you "should" like. Like Sleep says, please start another thread for more detailed music discussion!

by Aegis
I absolutely hated Heart of Darkness. I found the book to be dry, and repeitive, and seemed to just go on and on. On top of that, the racism and biggorty present in the book(s) where just horribly.

The racism and bigotry is supposed to show how the European colonists were, and how they viewed other people (ie Konrad did not have those opinions, he lets his characters have it to illustrate a lot of horrible things). Personally I also found Heart of Darkness a bit dull, but IMO it's stylistically beautiful and tells about events that must be told - that's is what makes it a very important book IMO.

by Xandax
I usually get in trouple when I start saying that I dislike ei. Pulp Fiction and From Dusk to Dawn.

From Dusk to Dawn is just a crap movie IMO. Pulp fiction is better, but still nothing special, I don't know why people view it as "special", I find nothing new in it.

by Zelgadis
Picasso's Guernica, and all the rest of cubism. They all just look like stuff put randomly together and rationalized afterwards.

Personally, I think Guernica is a magnificent work, although I prefer The girls from Avignon. I'm no Picasso fan, but I quite like the cubism (I like Braque for instance) and no, it's not as random as it looks, often it is the same object from different angles at the same time, or the same object as if it was moving. I however understand if some people don't like it, it's not exactly beautiful.

by Tom
Modern art especially modern painting and sculpture. Some people walk around galleries uhing and ahing and discussing the pieces while I see nothing - possibly the experimental brain surgery is to blame.

ROFL

Yours or theirs? However, I do think that a lot of contemporary art is far to self commenting and esotheric, I wish it would comment society and broader issues more that it does.

by HLD
Hemingway-yech.

I know I'm going to get flamed for this but I didn't care much for the Lord of the Rings books. I found them hard to read and Tolkien's narrative style boring and bogged down in minutia.

Agree! I have posted my negative opinions of Tolkien's work here before, and I absolutely agree with you that his obsessive-compulsive tending to details is extremly boring and monotonous.

by Pregethwr
The Magic Mountain by Thomas Mann

Looking at it intellecually I can see how this is a great achievement, the way he explores rationality, liberalism, engagement with the world etc... there are hundreds of pages of carefully worked dialogue about the soul of European civilisation

Sadly, I agree with you. I soooo wanted to like it, but I couldn't - I like it in theory, but reading it was so boring my mind felt like a vacuum.

Another one:

Oscar Wilde - How did this man get to be some kind of cult figure? His literary work is mediocre, and his famous wit seems to have consisted merely of taking a random phenomena and put it into it's opposite, ie "the difficulty with being truly witty, is notbeing witty" and such. (Very well illustrated in a Monty Python sketch). The only thing of merit he did IMO was to stand up for being gay.