Shadow Mages

GrimReaper · Post by **GrimReaper** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 8:12 pm

I figured out my problem. I think it had something to do with the boots of speed which I always wore. Anyways, I downloaded the patch off of some unofficial update site (can't remember the name but it's posted on this board; great site by the way) and my assassin works fine. He hits like normal and can actually get backstabs in now. Also, while on backstabs, I know this has been discussed before, but what's the highest backstab you ever got? Mine is with assassin with 6x backstab and celestial fury I got 170 damage plus the 20 extra electrical. Bad thing was this was on a troll so I still had to take out my fire blade and kill him.

Pungyol · Post by **Pungyol** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 9:41 pm

Originally posted by Rail:
@Dude- I don't think that's the point. I knoe CF and Daystar do the most damage. I'd like to hear from anyone who uses something else for other reasons than damage like just because they think the weapon is cool or has an interesting background.

@Edwin- thanks for the invitation, but I won't fall into your arcane spiderweb.

I'm using Kachiko's Wakizashi +3 which I purchased from Joluv (Bonus Merchant in the Slums). I agree with Grimreaper regarding the problem he encountered when backstabbing using the Celestial Fury. I interchange C.F. and Kachiko's Wakizashi +3 when doing a backstab throughout all the Chapter 2 quests. And I've noticed that I hit more frequently with the Kachiko's Wakizashi +3 than with the C.F. (Maybe because the Kachiko's Wakizashi +3 has a speed factor of zero.) So when I started Chapter 3, I let Valygar used the C.F. and my Assassin the Kachiko's Wakizashi +3. For my Assassin's projectile attack, I use the Firetooth +3, since I can use the Poison Weapon Ability with this throwing dagger. The Poison Weapon Abilty does not seem to work with bows and arrows. Although, I have only tried it with an ordinary short bow equipped with arrows +1/+2 and not magical bows like Gesen's or the Tansheron's.

GrimReaper · Post by **GrimReaper** » Wed Apr 25, 2001 3:44 pm

There's something wrong here. Everybody says they can't use poison weapon with arrows but mine works fine. Last night with Tansheron's Bow I poisoned that guy in De'Arnise easily. Also, I believe it worked with normal arrows but that was awhile ago that I used them so I'm not sure. Anyone else tried Tansheron's with poison weapon? If I recall it should be the same as with any other bow and arrows because the arrows are described as a separate item and that they're just created by the bow. Thing is, I'm not sure if this is how they actually created the weapon.

Pungyol · Post by **Pungyol** » Wed Apr 25, 2001 10:47 pm

Originally posted by GrimReaper:
There's something wrong here. Everybody says they can't use poison weapon with arrows but mine works fine. Last night with Tansheron's Bow I poisoned that guy in De'Arnise easily. Also, I believe it worked with normal arrows but that was awhile ago that I used them so I'm not sure. Anyone else tried Tansheron's with poison weapon? If I recall it should be the same as with any other bow and arrows because the arrows are described as a separate item and that they're just created by the bow. Thing is, I'm not sure if this is how they actually created the weapon.

Im now out of the underdark and would be able to use the Gesen bow. The Poison Weapon Ability now works fine with the Gesen but still not with ordinary bow and arrows.

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Thu Apr 26, 2001 8:22 am

Originally posted by GrimReaper:
There's something wrong here. Everybody says they can't use poison weapon with arrows but mine works fine. Last night with Tansheron's Bow I poisoned that guy in De'Arnise easily. Also, I believe it worked with normal arrows but that was awhile ago that I used them so I'm not sure. Anyone else tried Tansheron's with poison weapon? If I recall it should be the same as with any other bow and arrows because the arrows are described as a separate item and that they're just created by the bow. Thing is, I'm not sure if this is how they actually created the weapon.

I've had no problem poisoning normal arrows, either. My assassin grabs the Tuigan bow ASAP. BTW, I've noticed that if a critter requires a magical weapon to hit, poisoning normal arrows just won't work against them.

Edwin · Post by **Edwin** » Thu Apr 26, 2001 8:32 am

In my first game i used a mage. Then i installed the official patch. And then tried to play as an assassin. And sometimes i have problems with backstabbing

Maybe it's the official patch??? Any idea???
I know it fixed the massive backstabbing you had before, but now my assassin is not so powerful without his backstabb.....

GrimReaper · Post by **GrimReaper** » Thu Apr 26, 2001 9:14 am

Edwin: Try the patch from Baldurdash. That seemed to fix all of my assassin problems. Other than that, I don't know.

Edwin · Post by **Edwin** » Thu Apr 26, 2001 9:19 am

I'll try that one. I thought about it after my post

Thanks.

Kayless · Post by **Kayless** » Thu Apr 26, 2001 1:29 pm

Since I usually use Shadowkeeper to change my assassin into a Shadow Thief I prefer equipping him with a pair of daggers (since the Shadow Thief sprite is armed with a knife)or a dagger and a short sword. Not the most effective combination but it’s in character.

Edwin · Post by **Edwin** » Fri Apr 27, 2001 12:38 am

Originally posted by Kayless:
Since I usually use Shadowkeeper to change my assassin into a Shadow Thief I prefer equipping him with a pair of daggers (since the Shadow Thief sprite is armed with a knife)or a dagger and a short sword. Not the most effective combination but it’s in character.

It's a good choice trying to equip a character with "his" weapon (weapon characteristic of his class).
Can you please tell me how you change your assassin in a shadow thief.....a new character to play

Kayless · Post by **Kayless** » Fri Apr 27, 2001 2:36 am

All I do is use Shadowkeeper to change the appearance of my assassin to that of the Shadow Thief sprite, since I believe the Shadow Thief looks much cooler then the normal rouge. It’s not new class or anything (

) just a different look for my protagonist.

Pungyol · Post by **Pungyol** » Fri Apr 27, 2001 3:03 am

Originally posted by GrimReaper:
Edwin: Try the patch from Baldurdash. That seemed to fix all of my assassin problems. Other than that, I don't know.

Grimreaper,

I have the Baldurdash installed, but there is no specific fix made to the Assassin class in the readme document (unless I missed it).

Anyway, can you enlighten me on this regard.

GrimReaper · Post by **GrimReaper** » Fri Apr 27, 2001 6:03 am

I don't believe there was a specific thing for assassin's in the baldurdash patch, but my problem was the boots of speed. I don't know if this is Edwin's problem, but it was the only thing I could think of that would cause it. So I figured it was worth a try.

Edwin · Post by **Edwin** » Sat Apr 28, 2001 12:41 am

I don't have boots of speed. But in these days i don't have time for playing BGII too....

So i'll let you know later........

A question: when ToB will be out, which kind of game are you going to play?????
I think my first time i'll go on with a new character. After that i'll start a new BGI game and run through ALL the BG games with a new character...

TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Sat Apr 28, 2001 3:57 am

i think i will go for the new char or play the game with my sorcerer who i'm now playing with.

TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Mon Apr 30, 2001 2:47 am

hello how are the Shadow Mages doing today??
is everybody on vacation or something?

or has just no one something interesting to say?
We got so much knowledge we want to and we want to tell people about it some come with your questions

(i just wanted this topic to go back on the top

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Edwin · Post by **Edwin** » Mon Apr 30, 2001 6:04 am

Hello!!!!
I'm fine, but no vacation for me today....

Kayless · Post by **Kayless** » Tue May 01, 2001 1:55 am

Strength fading...everything going dark...experiencing SPAM WITHDRAWL!!!

Semi-seriously, I can't believe we let the guild sink this far! We were on the second freaking page!!!!! Let's get some posts people! But preferably not spam (do as I say not as I do

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[ 05-01-2001: Message edited by: Kayless ]

Rail · Post by **Rail** » Tue May 01, 2001 3:37 am

Spam?!? What's that?

Kayless, you've got to get away from these mages! They'll be the death of you yet. Before you know it..., you'll be a *shudder* sorceror.

Well, they're easier to kill.

TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Tue May 01, 2001 3:48 am

yes kayless yes ! ad last u noticed it too we can't let this sink this far this will live forever mmmmmmmwhahahhaha

spam away guys

(nobody has anything usefull to say right?)
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