Shadow Mages

Kayless · Post by **Kayless** » Sat May 19, 2001 5:41 am

Odd things are bound to happen when you mess with the fabric of the universe, tRiKzTaR.

(Not that I'm one to lecture

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TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Sat May 19, 2001 6:07 am

ok thnx U_nig

another question if u are a ranger and u have war hamer ++++ and Fail++++ and dual ++
and u dual to cleric and get warhamer + and fail+ en dual weilding +++ will u and up with warhamer/fail/dual weilding +++++???
or not? and if not wich are gone the rangers or the cleric points???

btw the weather is great here to only i got a hell of a cold

U_Niq · Post by **U_Niq** » Sat May 19, 2001 7:10 am

I dont know what happens to your prof. points. I dont think it will go over 3 in dual wield and 5 in weapons. But i noticed something weird: as soon as my stalker was lvl 9 (3 stars in dual wield), i dual classed. I gave the cleric also 1 point in dual wield, and when i clicked "done" to finish the dual classing, the game crashed. The second time i tried the same happend. I reloaded again, didnt give the cleric a star in dual wield and suddenly i was able to dual normally.
When i regained the stalker skills i had 3 prof points in dual wield, some in war hammer and in flail i believe. Just remember you are restricted to cleric weapons, so any points in long sword for example will be wasted if you dual.

But who cares? I only went melee when all my creatures were dead and i had no spells left. That happened only twice or so, since you have ALL druid and cleric spells including elementals, gate, sanctuary/blade barrier, nature's beauty, etc etc. Its a really powerful character. Just summon a few creatures, hide in shadows, and watch your pit fiend kill everything in its path.

The weather gets better and better! As the week progresses, it gets warmer!!

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U_Niq · Post by **U_Niq** » Sat May 19, 2001 7:20 am

@ tRiKzTaR : You can change those things with your sorcerer with SK. There are some values somewhere with a 0 or a 1 behind it. This includes things as whether you've seen one of the dreams or not. You can change the value after the "turnintotheslayerornot" (whatever) option in a 0 to prevent it.
But i dont see the reason for that

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U_Niq · Post by **U_Niq** » Sat May 19, 2001 7:28 am

@ thedude : If you hit lvl 9 with your stalker you need to get some exp FAST. The best way to do this is to forget about some rewards and come back when you dual classed. Otherwise it is nearly impossible to level or even get some xp. With a thac0 of 19 and only 1 x entangle you wont be able to kill anything. (and i know what i'm talking about) I had a though time regaining my stalker skills. But if you dont solo it will probably be quite easy.

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U_Niq · Post by **U_Niq** » Sat May 19, 2001 7:34 am

just another post to get closer to the 500

(well, i did post some serious replies so i can do this

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TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Sat May 19, 2001 10:04 am

don't over post your selve u-nig

i started a new game Ranger/(soon to be dualed to)Cleric.
and i had some real luck:
str.18/74
dex.18
con.18
int.10
wis.18
cha.5 (no problem with the ring of course)

i'm now lvl 8 and already got 114 hitpoints (i think that is really high for such low lvl)
and an AC of -3 already (also pretty high because after chap 1 u don't have many great stuff (exept for the helm of Buldaran(?)
one more question:
when u dual to cleric and u gain lvl's very fast u have a great number of lore right??
i mean look i started with arround 25 lore
10 cleric lvl's further i must have arround 55 lore right??

U_Niq · Post by **U_Niq** » Sat May 19, 2001 11:09 am

clerics get only 1 lore per level.

I think you should dual at level 9, because there are no real advantages of an extra level ranger. If you are at the cap, you have a thac0 of 3/5 (main/off) anyway.
Too bad you only get 2 level 7 spells... it is REALLY cool to cast gate and firestorm after each other, and the pit fiend is immune to the damage of firestorm.

don't over post your selve u-nig

we still have to make it to the 500...

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U_Niq · Post by **U_Niq** » Sat May 19, 2001 11:17 am

wow... just thought of a really cool multiclass for ToB...
The cleric mage! He can put 3 firestorms in a spell trigger, cast gate, healing spells, level 10 mage spells, every single spell in the whole game!
That will probably be the first class i'll play solo after a wild mage!

tRiKzTaR · Post by **tRiKzTaR** » Sat May 19, 2001 5:21 pm

Originally posted by U_Niq:
<STRONG>@ You can change the value after the "turnintotheslayerornot" (whatever) option in a 0 to prevent it.
But i dont see the reason for that .</STRONG>

Hmmm...funny thing is I never really used the Slayer...dunno why - just didn't find it that powerful...and besides that I didn't like losing my reputation points....

- tRiKzTaR

U_Niq · Post by **U_Niq** » Sun May 20, 2001 12:57 am

who cares about reputation points? If your reputation is too low just go to a temple and donate some gold. If you solo gold isnt much of a problem anyway.

Edwin · Post by **Edwin** » Sun May 20, 2001 1:09 am

Hey Dude and Kayless...is this really the shadow mages topic...

Real good discussions, new members.....
Do you remember the weeks when we had to take care about not going to page 2?????
Ahhhhhh, but great times are in front of us.....
About the discussion:
@Dude: when you dual, if you have 4* in a weapon, and put 1* in the new class for the same weapon, you'll lose this star when you'll get back your previous abilities.....

And don't worry about reputation.....temples are made for donations...

TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Sun May 20, 2001 1:14 am

@ edwin, i know this iss really becoming a great topic.
And we do have alot of members and even serieus posts

Edwin · Post by **Edwin** » Sun May 20, 2001 1:20 am

Now a new point for a discussion......
I've seen sarevok is human and have int. 17...so we'll be able to dual class him to mage. What will you do?????
After the first moment of incredible happiness......i thought that int 17= no 9 lvl spells.....so is it really useful to dual class him. What do you think.....Maybe in my first game i'll use him as plain fighter, but surely in my second i'll try to dual him.....so i'll have both him and Korgan in my party.......(i usually don't have more than one fighter at time in my party)

GrimReaper · Post by **GrimReaper** » Sun May 20, 2001 6:49 am

Edwin has brought up another problem that could annoy some people in ToB. In Buck's preview it said that there will be a lot of high level spellcasters that cast time stop before anything. Problem is, how many mages in BG2 have 18 int? Only Edwin I think, and he's evil. So you are stuck with him if you want level 9 spells and are not a mage yourself. But, if we're lucky, they will include some intelligence enhancing items for us. Otherwise, I think all of us spell users might get very mad.

Kayless · Post by **Kayless** » Sun May 20, 2001 7:01 am

You don’t need an 18 Int to cast level 9 spells in ToB (at least that was what I heard). Having Sarevok able to dual class is awesome, but I probably play him strait up the first time around.

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TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Sun May 20, 2001 10:14 am

ok Shadow Mages i'm off to vacation keep posting and if i'm not around celebrate the 500st post heavy

see u all in a few days bye !!!

Kayless,, u-nig, Edwin u trust u all keep this topic from going to the 2nd page right

Kayless · Post by **Kayless** » Sun May 20, 2001 10:19 am

See ya, Dude. Have fun. We’ll have a big party in your honor when we reach 500.

U_Niq · Post by **U_Niq** » Sun May 20, 2001 10:57 am

mzzl, dude.

We will keep this topic up and make it to post 500!!

U_Niq · Post by **U_Niq** » Sun May 20, 2001 11:13 am

have y'all read the preview of ToB by Buck satan?