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Hey!!!!! Where's everybody???? No new post in a day!!!! :eek:
Maybe Dude and U-Niq realized that they'll receive ToB with a 10 days delay.....and decided to suicide... :p :p
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I guess we’ll have to have a eulogy for them (just what I need, more speech writing :p ). Alas, poor Dude and U_Niq. If only ToB had arrived a bit sooner. We'll mourn your passing. ;) :D
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So dawn goes down to day.
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Originally posted by Xyx:
<STRONG>Not that cheap, actually... Suppose that NWN caps out at level 20. If you're a level 20 Fighter, you'll have 4 attacks per round. If you're a level 19 Fighter with 1 level of Ranger, you'll have only 3 attacks per round. I'll take the extra attack over the "free" dual wield every day.</STRONG>
You bring up a good point, but it's important to remember that although in the long run you're better off as a pure class, in the short term it's very effective. Dual wielding is going to give you extra attacks and if you multiclass to ranger early (say Ftr 1/Rng 1) you're going to have a big early advantage over folks who take their time to do things the old fashioned way. Furthermore, in Neverwinter Nights getting to level 20 is supposed to be damn hard (the in-game campaign will only take a character to around level 10 or so).
Originally posted by Xyx:
<STRONG>Same goes for (what I consider) even more "powerful" combinations such as Sorcerer with a level of Monk (AC and save bonus) or Paladin (weapon abilities, lay on hands, even bigger save bonus). Is that worth two level 9 spells per day?</STRONG>
Monk’s can’t multiclass in Neverwinter Nights(or so folks tell me). :(

Check out the remarks on the offical [url="http://feedback.blackisle.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=19&SUBMIT=Go"]Neverwinter Nights[/url] board to get some idea on how folks feel (believe me, everything's been/being discussed ;) ).
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I'm really interested in NWN...but now i have to think about finishing ToB and then starting a new game with BGI, II and ToB....then i'll start thinking at NWN..... :eek: :p ;)
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hi all
sorry i didn't post, i couldn't make connection with GameBanshee :( .
i even couldn't Update my Tour de France news on the SyM board.

tommorow i will get ToB :D :D :D :D
ad last.
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Image Mwuhahahaha! I live again! Image

I was unable to make a internet connection yesterday... I did not commit suicide. yet. ;)
Maybe tomorrow, when ToB is not available here.

1 DAY TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by TheDude:
<STRONG>
tommorow i will get ToB :D :D :D :D
ad last.</STRONG>

:D :D :cool: ;)
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Hope is the last thing to die.... ;) :p
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So if we don't hear from you guys tomorrow you're either playing ToB or dead. :D :D :D
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Then leaf subsides to leaf.
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he U-Nig if we don't get ToB tomorrow lets jump from the Hilton Hotel ok. :D :D :D :D :D
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I just had a warped thought. What if there was only one copy of ToB left and the Dude and U_Niq had to fight to the death for it? :eek: Image :D
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I will win!!!!!!

i'm his Guild leader so he has to have the respect for my and will give it to me :D :D

And if not i would still get ToB i'm older then him :p :D ;) :p
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We could have some cheesy fight music from the original Star Trek play as the two Shadow Mages grapple for ToB! The rest of us could sell tickets. ;) :D
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Her early leaf’s a flower;
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Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
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...and in the middle of the fight the mighty Edwin comes out of nowhere (i'm a shadow mage or what?? :D ) and makes peace between dude and u-niq taking the copy of ToBand running away screaming...."NOW I HAVE 2 COPIES!!!!!" MUHAHAHAHAHA
.......i know it's a bit delirant, but that's it..

Or i can come with kayless selling tickets at incredibly high price for our common money to be spent on our future meeting drinkin' beer!!!! ;)
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as i said it will not be a far fight.
U-Nig will respect my as his Guild Leader and will hand the copy over to my. :D

or else i will kick his but because i'm stronger either way i will be victorious :D :p :p :D
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Originally posted by TheDude:
<STRONG>as i said it will not be a far fight.
U-Nig will respect my as his Guild Leader and will hand the copy over to my. :D

or else i will kick his but because i'm stronger either way i will be victorious :D :p :p :D </STRONG>
Image

You still have lots of things to learn, my son. Ofcourse I will get the last copy. ;)

But jumping of the Hilton seems a good idea. For everybody who doesnt know: The one and only dutch rock and roll hero committed suicide yesterday by jumping of the Hilton hotel somewhere in the Netherlands. He probably didn't feel a thing, since he was stoned 24/7 :D
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Originally posted by Edwin:
<STRONG>...and in the middle of the fight the mighty Edwin comes out of nowhere (i'm a shadow mage or what?? :D ) and makes peace between dude and u-niq taking the copy of ToBand running away screaming...."NOW I HAVE 2 COPIES!!!!!" MUHAHAHAHAHA
.......i know it's a bit delirant, but that's it..

Or i can come with kayless selling tickets at incredibly high price for our common money to be spent on our future meeting drinkin' beer!!!! ;) </STRONG>
That wont be a good idea, since thedude and i will chase you all the way back to italy till we get the copy you stole from us. And because we are in Italy anyway, we "borrow" yours too so we can still play both.
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Originally posted by U_Niq:
<STRONG>That wont be a good idea, since thedude and i will chase you all the way back to italy till we get the copy you stole from us. And because we are in Italy anyway, we "borrow" yours too so we can still play both.</STRONG>
hehe nice one didn't tought about that :D :D
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Post by Xyx »

Originally posted by Kayless:
<STRONG>in Neverwinter Nights getting to level 20 is supposed to be damn hard (the in-game campaign will only take a character to around level 10 or so).</STRONG>
The difference between a level 10 Fighter and a 9/1 Fighter/Ranger is still one attack per round... The advantage of an early multi wears off after about 4 levels or so, when every character has had a chance to get a decent amount of Hit Points and the feats to dual wield.
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Originally posted by Xyx:
<STRONG>The advantage of an early multi wears off after about 4 levels or so, when every character has had a chance to get a decent amount of Hit Points and the feats to dual wield.</STRONG>
Exactly, hence my feeling that it’s a cheese tactic that certain players (Pkers and the like) will use to gain an early advantage. Taking the cheap 1 level of Ranger gives you brief period of superiority that many unscrupulous players will exploit by PKing or Griefing (I know I’m cynical but I‘ve had too much experience on Battle.net and other online games to believe in the altruistic nature of other players). Hopefully DMs will be able to keep it to a minimum (assuming the DM isn’t corrupt himself :eek: ).

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Nature’s first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
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