ok, here is some party formations that I have found very useful for good alignment.
If your PC is a warrior:
Keldorn and/or Minsc
Jaheira
Aerie
Jan and/or Imoen
If your PC is a mage:
Keldorn
Minsc
Jaheira
Aerie
Jan and/or Imoen
If your PC is a priest:
Keldorn
Minsc
Jaheira and/or Aerie
Jan and/or Imoen
If your PC is a rogue:
Keldorn
minsc
Jaheira
Aerie
Imeon
Ideal Parties for Good Alignment
Ideal Parties for Good Alignment
If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.
I played a dualled ranger/cleric, and I found this party to be bitchin':
The reasons are in parenthesis.
Minsc (Vorpal Sword, dialogue)
Keldorn (Carsomyr, inquisitor abilities)
Valygar (Celestial Fury + Blackrazor, interaction with Mazzy)
Mazzy (Gesen Bow, interaction with Valygar)
Imoen (need a thief, need a mage, and after all she's still my ...)
The reasons are in parenthesis.
Minsc (Vorpal Sword, dialogue)
Keldorn (Carsomyr, inquisitor abilities)
Valygar (Celestial Fury + Blackrazor, interaction with Mazzy)
Mazzy (Gesen Bow, interaction with Valygar)
Imoen (need a thief, need a mage, and after all she's still my ...)
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Really, there's no ideal. There's a selection of good and neutral party members you can add to make a wide variety of very playable configuations, mainly depending upon your style of play.
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One of my favorites:
There's nothing a little poison couldn't cure...
- Me - Priest of Lathander (Undead's nightmare)
- Jaheira (Insect plague = mages' nightmare)
- Keldorn (Special abilities = mages' other nightmare, and HA)
- Mazzy (Archer extraordinare)
- Jan (Great thief and great lines like "..Oh Keldorn: the gods say 'hi' and that you should wash your underwear more thoroughly..."
) - Imoen (best good-aligned mage in the game)
There's nothing a little poison couldn't cure...
There's nothing a little poison couldn't cure...
What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, ... to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if he people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security.
What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, ... to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if he people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security.
my party now is:
- me: Assassin, poison, hide and death
- Keldorn, with carsomyr he just ROCKS
- Edwin, in my opinion THE mage
- Korgan, very good fighter
- Aerie, i'm a dwarf so see doesn't wine about her wings
- Valygar, with Empaler and hide u don't want to mess with him.
i think this is one of the best party's to have u have got a lot of difference kits and the party is very balanced.
But i think that's why Aerie and Korgan can't work together so u can't keep this party very long
I'm going to leave Korgan but how should i pick? imoen,hear-dallis,minsc or anomen??
- me: Assassin, poison, hide and death
- Keldorn, with carsomyr he just ROCKS
- Edwin, in my opinion THE mage
- Korgan, very good fighter
- Aerie, i'm a dwarf so see doesn't wine about her wings
- Valygar, with Empaler and hide u don't want to mess with him.
i think this is one of the best party's to have u have got a lot of difference kits and the party is very balanced.
But i think that's why Aerie and Korgan can't work together so u can't keep this party very long
I'm going to leave Korgan but how should i pick? imoen,hear-dallis,minsc or anomen??
I don't get it... You're a dwarven assassin?Originally posted by TheDude:
- me: Assassin, poison, hide and death
- Aerie, i'm a dwarf so see doesn't wine about her wings
I'm going to leave Korgan but how should i pick? imoen,hear-dallis,minsc or anomen??
Isn't dwarf the worst race to be a thief? Thieves like 18 DEX!
Anyway, get Mazzy... You already have 2 great frontal fighters (if you ditch Korgan), and Mazzy is excellent with the bow.
But I think Korgan is one of the best warriors in the game, so I'd advise you to dump Aerie instead, and get Anomen.
That was my big 'DOH' moment when i realized thatOriginally posted by The_Pope:
I don't get it... You're a dwarven assassin?
Isn't dwarf the worst race to be a thief? Thieves like 18 DEX!
but he looks cool!
btw where does mazzy go to after u realise her?
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My current favorite:
There's nothing a little poison couldn't cure...
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- Me - CN Halfling Assassin (Poison is everyone's nightmare)
- Jaheira (Insect plague and fire elementals)
- Keldorn (HA and special abilities)
- Anomen (Great for blowing up Undead)
- Aerie (Spell-casting powerhouse)
- Edwin at first (to help him with his "identity crisis" ), then Imoen
There's nothing a little poison couldn't cure...
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[This message has been edited by Sojourner (edited 04-07-2001).]
There's nothing a little poison couldn't cure...
What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, ... to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if he people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security.
What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, ... to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if he people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security.
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i get the feeling the people here dont like Anomen, but neither do I .
Heres my Party
Me: Invoker(oh the spells of power)
Minsc:BOO!
Keldorn:All reasons in recent posts
Yosimo/Imoen: Good theifs fir some reason Jan never lasts more than 5 days in my party
Jaheria: Druid and Cleric spells
Mazzy: One of the best archers in game
But who would you get rid of for a place for Sareverok?
. Heres my Party
Me: Invoker(oh the spells of power)
Minsc:BOO!
Keldorn:All reasons in recent posts
Yosimo/Imoen: Good theifs fir some reason Jan never lasts more than 5 days in my party
Jaheria: Druid and Cleric spells
Mazzy: One of the best archers in game
But who would you get rid of for a place for Sareverok?
He is back and in 3-d!
Welp, here's what I think about good alignment party members.
I think if you even consider a good alignment character, it's better off to be a warrior type or a combination of a warrior type since there really isn't anything to pick from.
Some key people you always want no matter what.
Imoen: because she is the best mage.. already said a hundred times but she can also use a bow quite well and for he thieving skills, you don't need any better outside of pick pocketing. (which good shouldn't be doing anyway but oh well)
Keldorn: Great with the +5 long sword (we all know what this is) he lacks the same things as anomen.. strength and dex so basically you should only choose one or the other. Also, if you have Minsc, that's 2 people specialing in long swords so not too much variety though good damage.
Anomen: best cleric after his "test" and good for a 3rd fighter. Don't take him if you are taking keldorn since they both have low dex and strength and your going to obviously be bumping one of them up and leaving the other one behind.
Jaheira: Great healer and summoner. Only downfall is that she levels slow and can't get level 7 druid spells. She's a lot better if you have keldorn as she'll be your number one healer.
Aerie: She's just crap. I mean, if you have minsc in the party.. they are both a liability. Even along, she can't get close range to use any of her spells. Sure she has lots but she is very very vunerable and I don't think she's worth worrying about. I'd rather use 2 character (Imoen and Jaheria/Anomen) before using her.
Valygar: Better than Minsc simply because he's not annoying
Valygar is better if you choose Keldorn I think since he uses katana's as his main weapon and his abilities as a stalker are good to kill mages. Either have him or Minsc.. not both.
Mazzy: Extra range power. her special abilities aren't that great.. i think black isle made her out better than she is but she is the only PC who can fire a bow other than your custom PC.
Jan: Personally, Jan is a great character. He works great in a good aligned or evil aligned party but he is the only usable thief that I can see for a good aligned party. Sure there is yoshimo, but you have to kill him or he dies of a heart attack or whatever). I'd use Jan at least until you get Imoen but he is very very good at theiving, fast walking to get away from enemies, and can learn a large variety of spells (since he is a specialist). if you have imoen, he is really an optional character as theiving isn't terribly important (imoen can hold her own i think) but he's good for pick pocketing key people to get the special items you need (ring of gaxx, adventurer's mart, various others, etc.)
Minsc: Personally he is very annoying but he's good for a front line fighter. He's priest spells are kind of a waste due to his low wisdom (6 = 50% fail). Basically, he's un advancable fighter but still good if you bear his dialogues. If you have a warrior type (especially a ranger/cleric but any fighter) and keldorn, I'd go with Valygar instead. If you don't have a warrior type, he'll do fine in any party due to his high strength and easily accessibility to the +3 talking great sword.
Cernd: Highly underrated. He can get higher spells than Jaheira and level MUCH quicker. When he shapeshifts, he's very much a tank. he could even be your primary healer as well. If you want something different than anomen, he's a good viable option.
Nalia: Good to hold out until imoen (but I think jan is far superiour and more fun). Drop her when you get imoen and she is better in almost all respects. Nalia is a bit better fighter, however.
Yoshimo: well the backstabbing idiot.. i dunno i had to kill him but I also heard he dies anyway, even if you don't take him along so I see no point into investing valuable experience points into this character and I only consider Jan or Imoen to be viable Thieves.
Basically for a warrior type for you main character, I'd go with this since you get 2 very powerful fighters and basically 4 capable fighters. You get all the mage and theiving abilities that you need with Imoen and you have 2 primary priests:
Main (Ranger/Cleric Dual)
Keldorn (Inquisitor)
Mazzy (Fighter)
Valygar (Stalker)
Jaheira (Fighter/Druid) or Cernd (Shapeshifter)
Imoen (Thief/Mage)
If you want to play as a fighter or fighter/mage (such as kensai/mage or beserker/mage), you'd take out valygar for Cernd as you'll probably use katanas yourself.
But obviously you can make a lot of mixes and matches from the info above.
That's my 2 cents. Thanks for listening.
I think if you even consider a good alignment character, it's better off to be a warrior type or a combination of a warrior type since there really isn't anything to pick from.
Some key people you always want no matter what.
Imoen: because she is the best mage.. already said a hundred times but she can also use a bow quite well and for he thieving skills, you don't need any better outside of pick pocketing. (which good shouldn't be doing anyway but oh well)
Keldorn: Great with the +5 long sword (we all know what this is) he lacks the same things as anomen.. strength and dex so basically you should only choose one or the other. Also, if you have Minsc, that's 2 people specialing in long swords so not too much variety though good damage.
Anomen: best cleric after his "test" and good for a 3rd fighter. Don't take him if you are taking keldorn since they both have low dex and strength and your going to obviously be bumping one of them up and leaving the other one behind.
Jaheira: Great healer and summoner. Only downfall is that she levels slow and can't get level 7 druid spells. She's a lot better if you have keldorn as she'll be your number one healer.
Aerie: She's just crap. I mean, if you have minsc in the party.. they are both a liability. Even along, she can't get close range to use any of her spells. Sure she has lots but she is very very vunerable and I don't think she's worth worrying about. I'd rather use 2 character (Imoen and Jaheria/Anomen) before using her.
Valygar: Better than Minsc simply because he's not annoying
Valygar is better if you choose Keldorn I think since he uses katana's as his main weapon and his abilities as a stalker are good to kill mages. Either have him or Minsc.. not both.Mazzy: Extra range power. her special abilities aren't that great.. i think black isle made her out better than she is but she is the only PC who can fire a bow other than your custom PC.
Jan: Personally, Jan is a great character. He works great in a good aligned or evil aligned party but he is the only usable thief that I can see for a good aligned party. Sure there is yoshimo, but you have to kill him or he dies of a heart attack or whatever). I'd use Jan at least until you get Imoen but he is very very good at theiving, fast walking to get away from enemies, and can learn a large variety of spells (since he is a specialist). if you have imoen, he is really an optional character as theiving isn't terribly important (imoen can hold her own i think) but he's good for pick pocketing key people to get the special items you need (ring of gaxx, adventurer's mart, various others, etc.)
Minsc: Personally he is very annoying but he's good for a front line fighter. He's priest spells are kind of a waste due to his low wisdom (6 = 50% fail). Basically, he's un advancable fighter but still good if you bear his dialogues. If you have a warrior type (especially a ranger/cleric but any fighter) and keldorn, I'd go with Valygar instead. If you don't have a warrior type, he'll do fine in any party due to his high strength and easily accessibility to the +3 talking great sword.
Cernd: Highly underrated. He can get higher spells than Jaheira and level MUCH quicker. When he shapeshifts, he's very much a tank. he could even be your primary healer as well. If you want something different than anomen, he's a good viable option.
Nalia: Good to hold out until imoen (but I think jan is far superiour and more fun). Drop her when you get imoen and she is better in almost all respects. Nalia is a bit better fighter, however.
Yoshimo: well the backstabbing idiot.. i dunno i had to kill him but I also heard he dies anyway, even if you don't take him along so I see no point into investing valuable experience points into this character and I only consider Jan or Imoen to be viable Thieves.
Basically for a warrior type for you main character, I'd go with this since you get 2 very powerful fighters and basically 4 capable fighters. You get all the mage and theiving abilities that you need with Imoen and you have 2 primary priests:
Main (Ranger/Cleric Dual)
Keldorn (Inquisitor)
Mazzy (Fighter)
Valygar (Stalker)
Jaheira (Fighter/Druid) or Cernd (Shapeshifter)
Imoen (Thief/Mage)
If you want to play as a fighter or fighter/mage (such as kensai/mage or beserker/mage), you'd take out valygar for Cernd as you'll probably use katanas yourself.
But obviously you can make a lot of mixes and matches from the info above.
That's my 2 cents. Thanks for listening.
I have some comment on egervari's analysis.
Keldorn: he's greater with Carsomyr than with the +5 long sword.
Cernd: he'd be better than Jaheira if and only if there was no EXP cap. With only 14 level, he's just wasting EXP points.
Yoshimo: if you leave Yoshimo in Brynnlaw, let him join again after back to Brynnlaw, and then he dies immediately. Take him to a temple, resurrect him, and that is! What Yoshimo good is his strength is excellent for backstabbing, his dexterity is high for firing bow, and his useful specialty. BTW, Jan is also a good viable option
Keldorn: he's greater with Carsomyr than with the +5 long sword.
Cernd: he'd be better than Jaheira if and only if there was no EXP cap. With only 14 level, he's just wasting EXP points.
Yoshimo: if you leave Yoshimo in Brynnlaw, let him join again after back to Brynnlaw, and then he dies immediately. Take him to a temple, resurrect him, and that is! What Yoshimo good is his strength is excellent for backstabbing, his dexterity is high for firing bow, and his useful specialty. BTW, Jan is also a good viable option
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I really never take a party with everyone good aligned. Usually its like this:
Me(Bezerker)
Valygar
Jan
Imoen
Haer
Edwin
This is a mix, but you have 2 very good, 1 good, and 1 fighter type spellcasters. Plus 2 tanks. That's alot of 6th level spells.
Me(Bezerker)
Valygar
Jan
Imoen
Haer
Edwin
This is a mix, but you have 2 very good, 1 good, and 1 fighter type spellcasters. Plus 2 tanks. That's alot of 6th level spells.
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Ehh.. Good aligned party ?
So this is my proposition :
-Good protagonist (chaotic good - it sounds funny)
-Aerie (ooh she is so good , and she is good addition to the party as healer/spellcaster)
-Keldorn (essential member of your party )
-Imoen (As good mage and party's thief)
-Minsc or Valygar (Another tank)
-Jaheira or Anomen (I prefer Jaheira (Yes, again for romance&quests&character) - good tank if you give her proper equipment + fire elementals + insects , Anomen is just total idiot fighter-cleric (kicked from the party in the first possibility) but the choice is up 2 you.
So this is my proposition :
-Good protagonist (chaotic good - it sounds funny)
-Aerie (ooh she is so good , and she is good addition to the party as healer/spellcaster)
-Keldorn (essential member of your party )
-Imoen (As good mage and party's thief)
-Minsc or Valygar (Another tank)
-Jaheira or Anomen (I prefer Jaheira
(Yes, again for romance&quests&character) - good tank if you give her proper equipment + fire elementals + insects , Anomen is just total idiot fighter-cleric (kicked from the party in the first possibility) but the choice is up 2 you.So sayeh
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I don't like parties with only one alignement. One of the best parties i had was:
me (kensai/mage)
Korgan
Keldorn
Viconia
Valygar
Imoen
Another good one:
Me Assassin
Edwin
Mazzy
Haer Dalis
Aerie
Valygar
Third:
Me (sorcerer)
Korgan
Viconia
Jahiera
Jan
Minsc
me (kensai/mage)
Korgan
Keldorn
Viconia
Valygar
Imoen
Another good one:
Me Assassin
Edwin
Mazzy
Haer Dalis
Aerie
Valygar
Third:
Me (sorcerer)
Korgan
Viconia
Jahiera
Jan
Minsc
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My best party:
Me (hlafling barbarian) CE
Korgan
Viconia
Haer
Jan
Edwin
This one was slightly better:
me fighter
Valygar
Anomen
Jaheria
Jan
Edwin
As you can see i love to have Jan and Edwin in my party and i usually play a fighter.
Me (hlafling barbarian) CE
Korgan
Viconia
Haer
Jan
Edwin
This one was slightly better:
me fighter
Valygar
Anomen
Jaheria
Jan
Edwin
As you can see i love to have Jan and Edwin in my party and i usually play a fighter.
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That's very close to my party. The only difference is I prefer good tanks, so I had Minsc instead of Jaheira. Man, my ranger/cleric kicked @$$!Originally posted by egervari:
<STRONG>Main (Ranger/Cleric Dual)
Keldorn (Inquisitor)
Mazzy (Fighter)
Valygar (Stalker)
Jaheira (Fighter/Druid) or Cernd (Shapeshifter)
Imoen (Thief/Mage) </STRONG>