Mordenkainen's Sword

Sir Percy · Post by **Sir Percy** » Thu Mar 08, 2001 9:34 pm

I came across a pair of Githyanki(sp?) who cast these sword-things at me.

1. How do you kill them? They seemed kind of hard to hit with anything.

2. Where do I get this cool spell from? I've been collecting scrolls religiously, but I've never seen one for that spell.

Brink · Post by **Brink** » Thu Mar 08, 2001 11:21 pm

1.Mordenkainen's Swords can be killed quite easily with spells(magic missile

).They have a certain immunity to weapons though(correct me on this if I'm wrong)

2.IIRC the spells are generated randomly except for some spells.I remembered getting the spell as early as Irenicus' Dungeon in one of my games

Garcia · Post by **Garcia** » Fri Mar 09, 2001 12:09 am

They have some immunity and deal out a good damage. in some situations they are great and in others they are useless on the summoning scale from 1-10 they get a 6.8

Radek · Post by **Radek** » Fri Mar 09, 2001 5:41 am

On MY summoning scale, they get 9.0 at least. Mordekainen's Sword is one of the best summoning spells.
Killing a Mordekainen's sword is almost impossible. Do not try weapons - my experience shows that +4 weapons are useless against the sword. As far as magic is concerned, do not forget that they have an active Greenstone Amulet + their own (high) magic resistances.
I've never fought against the sword, so that my recommendations are shots in the dark. I've seen repeatedly that Mordekainen's sword can be CHARMED (that's why you should not send them against the Black Dragon). Try Dire Charm. Also, you can try to Maze them.
The Kuo-Toa Dungeon seems to be a regular place where you will find the spell. Other places may contain the spell as a random treasure (you cannot count on it of course). If you do not want to wait so long, then

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Vehemence · Post by **Vehemence** » Fri Mar 09, 2001 5:49 am

Their major disadvantage is their short time that they are in effect. IMO they don't last long enough for what I need them for. It is a great spell, but I'd rather have a couple of Earth, fire and Air elementals by my side.

There are times, however, that the +4 and less immunity does make them quite useful.

As far as beating them goes, the others suggested some good strategies, I personally haven't fought against them so I won't comment on that aspect.

mizuno · Post by **mizuno** » Fri Mar 09, 2001 5:54 am

they are immunity against weapons, anyone have tied the holy avenger?

but magic missiles can do a nice job, only 2 spells of magic missiles caould kill one. don't kow y

Genesis · Post by **Genesis** » Fri Mar 09, 2001 7:18 am

Yes they are awesome summons except for thier one fatal flaw...they are vulnerable to magic missle. 2 casts of this will kill them. Otherwise they are impossible almost to kill. They worked really nice for me against Balor...2 of them hasted wacked im good

whitelight666 · Post by **whitelight666** » Fri Mar 09, 2001 9:59 am

if you don't wanna use clua console, you could go to firkraags dungeon, and rest in the tunnels right before that random undead chamber...usually u are ambushed by a skeleton warrior, who for th efirst 4 or 5 times is carrying a spell scroll of high level (i never got a mordenkainens sword, but i got hakeashar summons, efreeti summons, finger of death, and one other...)

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Sir Percy · Post by **Sir Percy** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 10:59 pm

Originally posted by whitelight666:
if you don't wanna use clua console, you could go to firkraags dungeon, and rest in the tunnels right before that random undead chamber...usually u are ambushed by a skeleton warrior, who for th efirst 4 or 5 times is carrying a spell scroll of high level (i never got a mordenkainens sword, but i got hakeashar summons, efreeti summons, finger of death, and one other...)

OK, I went there and rested in the tunnels I think you mean.
Several times.
Nothing.
Where exactly did you rest?

Do you mean the T-intersection you come to (when entering the dungeon) and where you turn East into a room where there are usually ghasts & mummies, with a whole bunch of shadows in the next room down?

Kevin Dorner · Post by **Kevin Dorner** » Thu Mar 22, 2001 11:07 am

Mordenkainen's Swords are immune to all physical damage. One will hold off a dragon if you keep it close enough that the dragon doesn't decide to breathe on it. Most magical damage will affect the Sword.

The Greenstone Amulets they drop are a bug. This was confirmed by a senior developer at BioWare. The Sword is supposed to be immune to charm and so forth having no "mind" to control. Whoever gave it the Amulet forgot that it has to be activated to work and the Sword can't do that; there are better creature items for this purpose. This is one of the bugfixes available at [url="http://members.home.net/mrkevvy"]Baldurdash[/url]

[This message has been edited by Kevin Dorner (edited 03-22-2001).]