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If we are going to be like that, then maybe Aegis is trying to make a point by chosing a title which makes relatively little sense...
But anyway think about the alternate meaning of Finnegans Wake...if you have read the book, it will make more sense. Possibly. At any rate, it is not just bad grammar, and At Swim Two Birds is not meant to be meaningless but rather IMO is meaningful and rather charming in a poetic kind of a way...Soldiers Pride fits into either model really....
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Originally posted by Kameleon I don't know the book, but perhaps he was trying to make a point by having a title that makes relatively little sense. I agree with you that a title is not a real sentence, and I have no problem with books called "Im abit drUnk tooday" or whatever, but Finnegans Wake is just bad grammar...
@Gwendri I'm not sure how to take that, but thanks
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Originally posted by Gwendri It wasn't meant as a bad thing! It's always good to make me laugh!
I'm kidding Making people laugh is a mission in life, right after staying alive and going to Disneyland. Hmm, you can see I haven't revised my ambitions in a few years...
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anyway, goodnight al...Kam, it was a pleasure to get petty with you tonight.
Indeed it was...I'm gonna wait for Korny to reply to the SYM Dip thread (EDIT - hmph, that was a disappointment. I was hoping for some taunts ), watch Van Wilder, and go to bed myself...pleasant dreams, hopefully not involving me
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Punctuation is one of the most wildly misused things in the English language. There is no real set of rules when it comes to using the stuff, and half of it makes no sense. I just do what I do...
For the hell of it, though, I once wrote an entire Essy (2500 words) without a single bit of punctuation... I got some fun notes there...
Originally posted by Aegis
This here is good, but you might want to elaborate a tiny bit on it. It can become a major part of his character, and views. As it stands, though, it's kind've out there, not connected to anything. Maybe tie in by saying soemthing like "When he ahd returned home, he had discovered his childhood home to have been burnt to the ground, and his family missing, dead for all he knew. Around the town, he watched as the other veterans came home to the open arms of their wives, and children, all the while reminding him of the emptiness inside, and only festering more hate for the government that sent him war, and forgot about him afterwards."
I dunno, I think I prefer it the original way. It's more.....stark. It stood out for me the first time I read it
@frogus: Quite the Flann O'Brien fan, aren't you? I just read the Catechism of Cliché. Excellent stuff
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And your argument is good
But I am the resurrection, babe,
And you're standing on my foot!
Originally posted by Beowulf I dunno, I think I prefer it the original way. It's more.....stark. It stood out for me the first time I read it
I'm going off the basis that this is a short story he's writing, thus won't have an oppertunity later to go further into that aspect of the characters pysche. The change I offered also the same sense of mystery (Family missing, unknown perpatraitor), but it also gives the reader a greater sense of Tyler's inner turmoil and angst.
Originally posted by Aegis I'm going off the basis that this is a short story he's writing, thus won't have an oppertunity later to go further into that aspect of the characters pysche. The change I offered also the same sense of mystery (Family missing, unknown perpatraitor), but it also gives the reader a greater sense of Tyler's inner turmoil and angst.
I think I see where you're coming from, and I'm working from he same assumptions, but the way I read it, Tyler has gone through turmoil and angst and come out the other side, if you know what I mean. He doesn't care any more, and the more simply and crudely (and succinctly) that's put, the better. Just my opinion, I know what you mean with the whole expanding it thing, but it doesn't suit my personal taste.
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And your argument is good
But I am the resurrection, babe,
And you're standing on my foot!
Indeed AFAIK I have read all of his books other than Myles Away From Home...and I cannot quite gather what it is about, although it might be more slected journalism...
At Swim Two Birds was my favourite...it will not have you hyperventilating like BoMyles does (still! ) but it is very funny in it's way...and contains the best pun ever made (which I know use every time I am in a pub... ) and is a great example of the 'Piss-take' genre which seems to have been so neglected in literature....and needless to say it is very clever and very funny, and cynical as hell...
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not a lot to add, but it truly is a wonderful book. i can't reccomend it enough. i remember i first read it in one sitting while sitting in a potting shed a few years ago, and i have re-read it regularly since. sheer class
Here where the flattering and mendacious swarm
Of lying epitaths their secrets keep,
At last incapable of further harm
The lewd forefathers of the village sleep.
