Morrowind just beat Neverwinter Nights!

MordorMan · Post by **MordorMan** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 2:07 am

At least on GameBanshee. I don't know if it ever happened before, but the number of posts in this forum is higher now than the number of posts in the NWN forum. It has been the other way around for a long time.

Loredweller · Post by **Loredweller** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 3:18 am

Sure, at least in single player mode. The world is far richer and freedom of action is bejond compare. The only two things one might wish are less resource required technically and bit more glory and tantara at the final of the main quest

The design in NWN is a bit "esthetic", prettier so say. However, there's more of details in Morrowind (there is difference between 3rd and 1st person view after all), and such thing as plug-ins. NWN in SP is far more strightforward, and all those restrictions on areas one can go ... It's built as a book contrary to Morrowind's world to live in and write the book yourself.
The one fundamental thing what was very dear to me in BG was the party and all related to it (all those tactical schemes and strategy and team building, you know, not mentioning care and romances

), what is gone completely in NWN (godess, you can never tell a henchman where to stay and what to do, neither you can direct your familiar without possesion what switches you yourself out, not mentioning the animal companion what cannot be directed at all). IMHO, NWN has notable shifted to Diablo side and so repel or leave disappointed many loyal BG fans.

Demis · Post by **Demis** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 4:29 am

Actually the number of posts shouldn't be considered as a measuremet about which is the best game. If you check the topics though Morrowind was ahead from the start because of the vastness of the world and because there are so many things to ask about

NWN forum got so many posts because many topics have grown huge due to discussions about the game, and we all know how many discussion are there just about what when wrong in NWN and couldn't live up to the previous BG games or similar

.

Anyway i still think that the SP campaign of NWN is not NWN. And though BW could have done much better i think they just wanted to give an example(or couldn't have the time to make the SP better) of what the toolset could do.

Loredweller · Post by **Loredweller** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 1:40 pm

Right, BW just has done what i've waited for very long time, i.e. it has made PnP visual and over the net. However, it leads (or would lead) to appearance of more or less closed communities what would have nothing to discuss here, thats all. What's going to be discused on such public boards as this is mostly single player missions and technical problems (both environment and gameplay issues).

rnrules · Post by **rnrules** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 9:41 pm

I'd have to say that even though morrowind appealed to me more, there was more hype about never-winter-knights. Of course when the stupid store realized that Morrowind was gone about 10 minutes after they put it out on the shelf, and I realized I would have to order it online (that packaging and screenshots just get you, it looks sooo coool!!)

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Fri Dec 13, 2002 8:56 am

Originally posted by Demis
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Anyway i still think that the SP campaign of NWN is not NWN. And though BW could have done much better i think they just wanted to give an example(or couldn't have the time to make the SP better) of what the toolset could do.

I couldn't agree more.
Morrowind is an excellent game......

But NwN SP campaign is by no means a good foundation of comparison. NwN multiplayer (if playing with decent people) by far magnifies the games durability.
Most people that compare NwN with morrowind(or other games ... BG/BG2-ToB) have only played the SP part of NwN - wich, to me and many others, is to much of diablo hack n' slash - and haven't played the NwN multiplayer part with other roleplayers.

Morrowind is a great game - but for a roleplaying part - I turn to NwN multiplayer.

smass · Post by **smass** » Fri Dec 13, 2002 2:39 pm

My feelings exactly Zandax - comparing roleplaying with the limited AI of a game vs. roleplaying with other human beings is like comparing apples and oranges.

Morrowind makes for an excellent single player solo experience.

Baldurs Gate is the ultimate single player adventuring party experience.

NWN online - on a good HCR server like Argyle - is far and away the best multiplayer roleplaying experience.

Loredweller · Post by **Loredweller** » Fri Dec 13, 2002 3:18 pm

I just will not be surprised if next ES game will be multiplayer as well. There's only one step to make.

cjdevito · Post by **cjdevito** » Fri Dec 13, 2002 5:21 pm

I just will not be surprised if next ES game will be multiplayer as well.

I would. I'd be utterly shocked, in fact. The "it's the next step" argument is what got us Ultima Online instead of a decent Ultima IX.