TOB problems with XP cap removed

nael · Post by **nael** » Thu Jun 21, 2001 4:43 pm

so, befoe i install TOB, has anyone had any problems with characters that have had the experience cap removed?

pip · Post by **pip** » Thu Jun 21, 2001 5:13 pm

I remember reading a warning in the past that one should not remove the expereince cap for charactors in Shadows of amn or they my find that their charactors will not be able to access the high level abilities (in TOB). I am not sure if this is true, but I am not taking a chance unless someone with first hand experience in TOB tells me otherwise.

Moonmaid · Post by **Moonmaid** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 7:59 am

So is it true that the character's won't get the high-level abilities if the cap is removed? This is really a major problem for me if it's true...And do you really start getting the abilities from level 20? (my cleric's on level 25 or something and my mage on 19, so would my mage get them but not the cleric...?)

Sabre · Post by **Sabre** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 8:06 am

You'll start getting the new abilities when you pass 3,000,000 xp or around there somewhere. You can always set your character back to the cap using Shadow Keeper, if they have already passed the limit in SoA - 2950000.

Moonmaid · Post by **Moonmaid** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 8:09 am

But what if I don't need the abilities from the 'missing' levels? Will I get them when I gain the next level even if I were on level 26 whwn finishing SoA?

Sabre · Post by **Sabre** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 10:49 am

Not sure, I don't have Throne of Bhaal yet, so don't actually know what will happen.

Wooly · Post by **Wooly** » Sun Jul 01, 2001 10:25 pm

When I started TOB my characters had well over 3,000,000 experience. My Cleric was level 23. My mage was 20. When I imported them they were the same level, 23 and 20, but their experience was reset to 2,950,000. They were a long way from the next level. I had completed alot of stuff and still they wouldn't level. It was frustrating until I noticed that their experience was lower. I used Shadowkeeper to reset their levels to what is normal at 2,950,000. When I next started the game everybody levelled and got to choose abilities. If you have removed the cap then I strongly suggest that you reset the characters levels to what is normal when finishing BG2.

--Wooly

Hex92 · Post by **Hex92** » Mon Jul 02, 2001 6:29 am

OK sounds like I need to change the experience points for my single classed characters. BUT what about dual classed characters? I have a Kensai/Mage that is 12/17 in levels. So since he hasn't hit the point where he gets the special abilities it chouldn't be a problem right? HAs anyone tried this?

HEx92

Raghnall · Post by **Raghnall** » Mon Jul 02, 2001 6:34 am

i don't know, i used the exp cap remover and i still get the special powers. I was level 19 though.

DarkStuff · Post by **DarkStuff** » Mon Jul 02, 2001 8:13 am

You just have to remember that when u set back your exp and lvl with ShadowKeeper u keep all the Thac0 (and other) bounuses u have gained from those lvl ups!!!
If that's not a problem to u then hurra! but if u like to play it fair (like I do) then your char's are more powerfull then they should be...
U should also edit the other bounuses u have gained.

samcu · Post by **samcu** » Wed Jul 04, 2001 8:13 pm

How do you know what you gain on which level? I mean is there a log in your character or something like that?

Also can't you download an exp cap remover or is it better to reload a saved game where the characters haven't reach the exp cap?

Oneiron · Post by **Oneiron** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 10:43 am

I had the experience cap removed on my players from SoA, when I migrated to ToB only Anomen had reached the cap. No problems other than I had to wait until he leveled up once before he started to get his high-level abilities. Honestly, I wish I hadn't used the experience cap remover but, I find it frustrating hitting my top level mid-way through the game (like I did in BG). SoA had a much better cap in it.

Magus · Post by **Magus** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 2:40 pm

I used the exp cap remover, and I had the same experience reset to 2,950,000 thing. I just played through until I finally started leveling up again. The only problem with that is you miss one or two chances to pick special abilities. My suggestion (and what I'm going to do next time, if the occasion arises) is that you not reset your level, but change the experience to its original value before it was reset. It's fair IMO because you earned the exp fair and square.