Why must the best of them be evil?

Armadin of Clan Geddin · Fri Jun 22, 2001 1:11 pm

Since me PC be usin' Crom Faeyr, it be indeed best to leave out that one.

Alright, test this one. I not be havin' a save game ready.

Keldorn:
Girdle o' Hill/Stone Giant Strength
Carsomyr
Gauntlets o' Dexterity
Helm o' Balduran
Armor o' the Hart

Korgan:
same girdle as Keldorn
Stonefire/Frostreaver
Gauntlets o' Dexterity if ye think that be makin' it fair
some shield (I were thinkin' o' Shield o' Harmony, since that prolly be the shield ye normally give him)
Helm o' Balduran
Armor o' the Hart

Korgan'll be havin' a lower AC, but Keldorn's Carsomyr will not be havin' too much trouble with that.

koz-ivan · Post by **koz-ivan** » Fri Jun 22, 2001 1:32 pm

this has got me to thinking, i'll check it out tonight, maybe i'll throw saravok into the mix.

i'll post results tonight. it'll be awhile though.

Armadin of Clan Geddin · Fri Jun 22, 2001 1:35 pm

Originally posted by koz-ivan:
<STRONG>this has got me to thinking</STRONG>

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Fri Jun 22, 2001 3:15 pm

It becomes painfully obvious how much even a Paladin's meager priest spells matter... Korgan doesn't stand a chance against any Paladin with spells. I doubt Inquisitor is such a great kit after all.

koz-ivan · Post by **koz-ivan** » Fri Jun 22, 2001 5:03 pm

ok the results are in.
best of seven (hey it works for the nba and baseball so it should be good enough here)

disclaimer - i installed the gm patch a while back. and korgan's equipment was not top of the line stuff for most fights.

round one keldorn vs korgan.
levels are as summoned in tob.
starting equipment (what they carry in by themseleves)
round one.

- korgan 64 hp remain (using axe +2, no bezerk)
- keldorn 6 hp remain (i felt keldorn needed more punch gave him carsomyr & gauntlets dex, korgan did not bezerk)
- korgan 73 hp remain (as above but korgan bezerked lost another 15 hp at end down to 58)
- korgan 16 hp remain (bezerk, keldorn drank potion storm giant str)
- korgan 74 hp remain (no bezerk used crom)

final tally 4-1 korgan.
post game wrap up, korgan hits way too often for even carsomyr to even the balance. results were pretty much as expected but i thought keldorn would win two.

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round two, contains spoilers pertaining to start of tob, read at own risk.

saravok vs korgan
starting equipment:
korgan full plate +1, sentinel & axe +3
saravok balduran plate, unholy reaver.

-saravok, 93 remain
-saravok, 64 remain (korgan bezerked)
-korgan, 21 remain (korgan now using crom)
-saravok, 5 remain (saravok used potion storm giant strength, korgan bezerked)
-korgan 96 hp remain (saravok, no potion, sword +3, korgan crom + bezerk)

now the results get wierd:
saravok 99 remain (equip as above)
saravok 134 remain (equip as above)
in one battle korgan was paralyzed despite being bezerk. in the last battle he was obliterated by something called deathbringer assault 200hps damage!

post game:
saravok is the man, but korgan suprised me here, i was expecting a sweep for saravok (he had the better equipment) korgan still won two, did major damage in a third, and in the fight in which he was parazyzed he had landed a few solid blows while avoiding major damage.

korgan rocks.

Mr. Sprinkles · Post by **Mr. Sprinkles** » Fri Jun 22, 2001 10:07 pm

@Xyx: True, but notice how all the evil characters stuck with you because you gave them a reason. When I was going to the Tree of Life to face Jon "Spells are like confetti" Irenicus, I asked each of them their reasons for staying. Edwin is sticking around because he says that I'll lead him to the power he craves, and Viconia's loyal simply because I saved her so many times (can't really remember what Korgan said, but I'll have Sarevok to keep the midget panzer in line)

. Anyway, my point is, if you want to make sure evil characters don't bachstab you, you have to give them a good reason not to, or make it so they can't (I think Viconia is still geased anyway). Neutral characters are not to be trusted, as far as I'm concerned. So, I displayed my feelings about neutral characters by telling Yoshimo and Jaheira to go piss off, while i got Jan thrown in jail and I betrayed Haer'Dalis over to the bounty hunters. I killed all of the good guys, as well as wiped out Imnesvale (save for Fael), because Minsiter Lloyd complained about my high demands for a reward. Oh, and uh, I also killed Cernd after poisoning the Hippie Grove.

White Rabbit · Post by **White Rabbit** » Fri Jun 22, 2001 10:30 pm

Finally somebody I can agrea with, way to go mr sprinkles!

Mr. Sprinkles · Post by **Mr. Sprinkles** » Fri Jun 22, 2001 10:55 pm

Just call me Rush