Fable,
You left out the "I'm not sure option" on purpose didn't you?
Fact is, I don't know what happends when one dies. No one does.
And since there is now way of checking I don't really bother thinking about it much. We'll just see what happends.
I do believe all theories are based on mankinds dreams.
So they are all very unreliable IMO.
@Rob-hin, most people are so certain about their opinions on such issues as this that I honestly didn't even think an "I don't know" should be included. Reactions usually range from "absolutely!" to "preposterous!" with little in-between.
To the Righteous belong the fruits of violent victory. The rest of us will have to settle for warm friends, warm lovers, and a wink from a quietly supportive universe.
Originally posted by fable @Rob-hin, most people are so certain about their opinions on such issues as this that I honestly didn't even think an "I don't know" should be included. Reactions usually range from "absolutely!" to "preposterous!" with little in-between.
LOL..well, exept maybe for those of us who are agnostic....the whole reson we exist is becuse the only thig we are sure about, is that we dont know
Scayde Moody
(Pronounced Shayde) The virtue of self sacrifice is the lie perpetuated by the weak to enslave the strong
Originally posted by Scayde LOL..well, exept maybe for those of us who are agnostic....the whole reson we exist is becuse the only thig we are sure about, is that we dont know
Heh. Reminds me of the modern Unitarian Church. "We're atheists who are afraid to say so, so we form a church," admitted one Unitarian, and it raises a chuckle whenever I repeat it. It doesn't raise a chuckle when they realize I'm truly committed to my Wiccan religion--they'd rather think that I'm "playacting" at it--but that's another matter.
To the Righteous belong the fruits of violent victory. The rest of us will have to settle for warm friends, warm lovers, and a wink from a quietly supportive universe.
Ive always wondered about reincarnation. One thing ive thought about is how do we account for the population growing a whole lot since the beginning of civilization. Is there the select few who start out in the pool of souls and as the population grows the number of "new" souls increases. Or is there one soul spread out among many people? Has this concept been talked about in religions who believe this?
Originally posted by Gorgan Ive always wondered about reincarnation. One thing ive thought about is how do we account for the population growing a whole lot since the beginning of civilization. Is there the select few who start out in the pool of souls and as the population grows the number of "new" souls increases. Or is there one soul spread out among many people? Has this concept been talked about in religions who believe this?
They usually pass off the mismatch by claiming earth is a subset of a larger universe. So now, more souls are "incarnating" on earth to "learn what it has to teach," and at another point, they'll go elsewhere. Presumably after some of those who refuse to learn pollute and defenestrate the place before blowing it into radioactive debris.
To the Righteous belong the fruits of violent victory. The rest of us will have to settle for warm friends, warm lovers, and a wink from a quietly supportive universe.
people would say that information transfer is ended at the birth death barrier, but logically you retain links with your mother to her mother to her mother to her mother to her mother, but chances are information arriving from their is again filtered out due to lack of similarities in brain structure and experience base, thus your mind based on its memory filters out information from that time, unless it correlates or is similar to experiences of your own. Vice versa with your death, that would seem to cut the link wouldn't it?
This is a good point, @InfiniteNature, and "loss of memory" is the argument I've probably heard most, offered against reincarnation. Put simply, if you're reincarnated, presumably it is for a purpose, to learn something. To learn something, one must have a sense of one's goals. But we have no memories of past incarnations or goals, which would seem to defeat the intent.
Some have suggested that the actual benefits from "life's experiences" comes between reincarnations, while one is--elsewhere. This is a Theosophical argument, and Theosophy was largely a mix of 19th century Spiritualism and Positivism. They believed that people would become better and better through reincarnation, over time, as "souls grew wiser." I would suggest that there is no evidence that people today are one iota wiser than those of a thousand or two thousand years ago, from everything we can tell (and that's quite a bit). By building on recorded evidence, we've amassed a huge amount of technological knowledge, but there seems to me no evidence that human beings have really grown in understanding of themselves and others. Theosophy's reincarnation theory looks pretty ragged, IMO.
Playing Weasel's Advocate, however, there is another theory: that somewhere along the line in the incarnation of human beings, something Went Wrong. Humans were supposed to act as stewards of the earth, and conduits for some kind of non-experiential knowledge. Whatever happened, loss of memory during incarnation was one of the results. Of course, this brings up the question, if something went wrong, why hasn't it been fixed? I've heard a lot of answers to that one, but nothing that audibly moved beyond the vaguest sort of rationalizing.
To the Righteous belong the fruits of violent victory. The rest of us will have to settle for warm friends, warm lovers, and a wink from a quietly supportive universe.
