a sorry day for dragons

fallout · Post by **fallout** » Tue Dec 26, 2000 2:18 am

That shadow drogon defated to level 1 magic. Long live magic missiles. After breach and 2 lower resistance 3 mages bombard the dragon.

Big minus to fighters. they cant even hit him.

is there any place to use that shodow scales

mikel · Post by **mikel** » Tue Dec 26, 2000 2:49 am

'use that shodow scales ' :

Yes, bring them to Cromwell, he forges a Dragon Scale Scale Armour giving AC 1 (plus acid resistance). For exact description look here in the 'forged item section'.

As far as I know this armour is considered as leather mail, which means a thief can use it without penalties.

mikel · Post by **mikel** » Tue Dec 26, 2000 2:52 am

And of course congratulation to that victory, I never managed to kill him whithout help of summonded creatures.

Rail · Post by **Rail** » Tue Dec 26, 2000 3:06 am

The shadow dragon armor rules if you have a stalker.
The shadow dragon was one of my toughest battles. I had to use neg. plane prot. on my best fighter while the rest pummelled him with arrows or breach spells. Way to go! You had an easier time with it than I.

Genesis · Post by **Genesis** » Tue Dec 26, 2000 12:30 pm

Dragon Fighting has always been quite easy for me...heres what I do. Have Arie or any cleric cast "Magic Resistance" on them while they are still non-aggressive. Not "Lower Resistance" which is an offensive spell. Now this will lower thier magic resistance from like 90 to maybe 20 depending on the clerics level..its like 2% per level. Then have Jahaira cast the Harm spell which if it hits..get this sets the health of the target down to 1. Then one single blast of magic missile will drop the great dragon..You may have to save and re-load a few times because Jahaira's thaco is not that high so she can only hit dragons with a critical hit.

Raistlin · Post by **Raistlin** » Wed Dec 27, 2000 8:17 pm

In my experiences through the game with dragons , I always soloed with my mage . Never used any other party members and it was alot fun . The spells that i have used :
lower resistance (2)
pierce magic
death fog
and for the final blow
finger of death (which is my favorite)

I formed a folder that contains some nice "saved game files" Mostly dueling sequances with dragons and nasty mages.
It may come handy if you finished the game and wandering around in boredom .

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fallout · Post by **fallout** » Thu Dec 28, 2000 4:04 am

okey. i will try with my mage next time.
bu arada ii bayramlar

Seritani · Post by **Seritani** » Thu Dec 28, 2000 8:32 am

Will that Shadow Dragon stay on it's lair to the next chapters? (I'm on chp. 2)
I tried that "little" snake few times, and I think that the best option would be to leave it for chapter 6..

Drakron Du´Dark · Post by **Drakron Du´Dark** » Thu Dec 28, 2000 8:36 am

HE will be there, waiting for you, just waiting, waiting, waiting.....

Chrissy · Post by **Chrissy** » Thu Dec 28, 2000 8:58 am

I always use the same thing when killing dragons. I know it's a bit wimpy, but I don't care, the armor you get is just too good to leave on those idiot dragons.

What you do is you buy a wand of cloudkill from a merchant. (you can sell 'em one with one charge and they recharge it for you, just buy it back)
Then you find your sorry ass dragon, stand a bit away so he can't see you, throw a few cloudkills on his head and wait till he dies. For a red dragon you need about ten cloudkills at the same time, cause he casts heal on himself, the bastard.
I'm a wimp aren't I?

But look at it this way: If they aren't smart enough to walk out of the cloudkill, they don't deserve to live.

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu Dec 28, 2000 9:07 am

You mean I've been 'dragon' all this equipment around and all I need is a stinkin' wand of cloudkill. Sorry. *Snicker...*

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Veldrik · Post by **Veldrik** » Thu Dec 28, 2000 9:52 am

Originally posted by Chrissy:
I always use the same thing when killing dragons. I know it's a bit wimpy, but I don't care, the armor you get is just too good to leave on those idiot dragons.

What you do is you buy a wand of cloudkill from a merchant. (you can sell 'em one with one charge and they recharge it for you, just buy it back)
Then you find your sorry ass dragon, stand a bit away so he can't see you, throw a few cloudkills on his head and wait till he dies. For a red dragon you need about ten cloudkills at the same time, cause he casts heal on himself, the bastard.
I'm a wimp aren't I?

But look at it this way: If they aren't smart enough to walk out of the cloudkill, they don't deserve to live.

I am even more cheap than you. I goto my mage book, memorise as many cloud kills as I possibly can (currently 8, well the alst time I checked it was) and then hit rest.
I only use the wands if the memorised ones didn't take them out. I am really cheap.

fallout · Post by **fallout** » Wed Jan 31, 2001 6:15 am

I played with a good party. For test my power i fight with silver dragon.

First time she kill me while she is very close to death.
Second time i summon a demon but attack me.
Third time dragon eat imoen aerie and jaherie
but last minute idea i cast finger of death after magic resistance killed her. (thanks Raistlin)

And question why did demon attack me while i have protec. from evil (keldon cast) Is there a save for it. I never used proct. from evil in my game. Ans Lichs summon pit friend too after proc. from evil but always fight with themselves after i go far away ???

Rail · Post by **Rail** » Wed Jan 31, 2001 6:18 am

Did you use Prot from Evil, or Prot from Evil 10' Rad? One protects one person. The other protects all near you. You could have had characters too far away. Just some possibilities.

fallout · Post by **fallout** » Wed Jan 31, 2001 6:27 am

I use Prot from Evil. Next time i will try Prot from Evil 10' Radius hope it works.

Radek · Post by **Radek** » Wed Jan 31, 2001 7:28 am

1. Protection from Evil does not help directly. Well it improves your saving throws.
2. Protection from Evil 10' = Protection from Evil. The only differences are longer duration and protection of more characters.
3. Negative Plane Protection does not help at all according to my experience. Besides, Amulet of Power grants a permanent protection to one of your characters, Mace of Disruption +2 does the same. Has anybody noticed any protection? I haven't noticed it.
4. Dragons & the Heal spell: ALL dragons can cast Heal. I have experienced castin Heal by Firkraag, the Shadow Dragon and the Black Dragon.
5. A question to Fallout et al. How did you managed to cast all your spells during the battle with a hasted dragon? All your spells require that you see the dragon and the dragon sees you. My experience is full of casting failures. Improved Invisibility does not help - all dragons see invisible and they can target invisible creatures with their magic and attacks. (This is another monster's cheat. Do you remember? "You cannto target invisible creatures ...? Well, YOU cannot - the monsters can.) Non-Detection does not improve anything.
6. Magic Resistance: According to my experience, the dragons became hostile when I tried to cast Magic Resistance to them. How come?

Mhr'djynn · Post by **Mhr'djynn** » Wed Jan 31, 2001 7:39 am

Originally posted by fallout:
I played with a good party. For test my power i fight with silver dragon.

First time she kill me while she is very close to death.
Second time i summon a demon but attack me.
Third time dragon eat imoen aerie and jaherie
but last minute idea i cast finger of death after magic resistance killed her. (thanks Raistlin)

this is funny

that cloudkill thingy on dragons never worked for me. the dragon casts heal at the last minute and it's starting all over from scratch. the thing that worked best for me is lots of defensive spells, potions of strength, resist fear, and a bit of luck while hammering away at the foul beasties. as i posted here before, jan cast the final blow on the shade dragon (probably with something like melf's acid arrow). the best set up seems to be 2 strong melee fighters, a couple of archers or slingers, and a couple of spellcasters. and pets help, especially if you can get them in early enough so that the dragon targets them instead of your main character.

and to fallout: congratulations. if you take those scales to cromwell, you'll find that the armor is great on minsc because it allows him to use his stealth while still providing really good armor protection.

fallout · Post by **fallout** » Wed Jan 31, 2001 9:28 am

Originally posted by Radek:
5. A question to Fallout et al. How did you managed to cast all your spells during the battle with a hasted dragon? All your spells require that you see the dragon and the dragon sees you. My experience is full of casting failures. Improved Invisibility does not help - all dragons see invisible and they can target invisible creatures with their magic and attacks. (This is another monster's cheat. Do you remember? "You cannto target invisible creatures ...? Well, YOU cannot - the monsters can.) Non-Detection does not improve anything.
6. Magic Resistance: According to my experience, the dragons became hostile when I tried to cast Magic Resistance to them. How come?

1-2-3-4 Thanks
5 I have 3 mages. One of them me lv17(At siver Drg.) . And others Aerie and Imoen.
First i cast magic resistance (go to 6)Then summon some and lover resistance. Dragon will be hostile now. 3 mages cast breach pierce magic things. After that dragon can distrup my mages with Wing Attack or Fire-Acid. Mostly they are fighting with my figthers. If i dont remember wrong shadow dragon fallow my mage when i used invisibility he stops it. (maybe i have a non detection cloak that time)

6. Mage's Lover resistance is hostile but Clerics Magic Resistence is a frienly spell in game. Increase resistance. If you have a high resistance lower it. (i think its sets all to %25)