Class comparison. Today Barbarian vs Berserker

Bruce Lee · Post by **Bruce Lee** » Sat Apr 21, 2001 10:09 am

We could start a discussion where we compare classes each day and start off today by comparing Barabrian and Berserker.
Everyone should write their opinion.
I prefer barbarians because they do not get winded after their rage and those extra hp are cool. If you got better bonuses for GM I would say berserker but as it is I say Barbarian. Only negative is the lack of good scale and splint mail in the game.
Armour of faith is to me the best armour for Barbarians.
Oops I forgot.
Barbarian 1 Berserker 0.
Add on your votes at the end of your post.

[ 04-21-2001: Message edited by: Bruce Lee ]

rapier · Post by **rapier** » Sat Apr 21, 2001 10:37 am

Barbarian is better! Bigger HP, better Rage, immune to backstab/weapons, and Crimson Chain +5 is a good armor for them, with AC 0...

Bruce Lee · Post by **Bruce Lee** » Sat Apr 21, 2001 10:43 am

Then we are at barbarian 2 berskerker 0

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sat Apr 21, 2001 11:22 am

How about red dragon scail?

Dúnadan · Post by **Dúnadan** » Sat Apr 21, 2001 11:38 am

Plus, Barbarians can't be touched by thieves, and their resistances at the end of the game are insane!

Barbarian 3, Berserker 0

cheesemage · Post by **cheesemage** » Sat Apr 21, 2001 11:41 am

Plus Barabarins names are shorter 4 to nothing

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sat Apr 21, 2001 11:44 am

@chesemage ?

Its(counting last one)Barb 5 Berzerker

cheesemage · Post by **cheesemage** » Sat Apr 21, 2001 11:45 am

Bruce Lee · Post by **Bruce Lee** » Sat Apr 21, 2001 3:53 pm

I am dissapointed that noone has come and voted for the berserker. The barbarian is imo better but it is close.

Kovi · Post by **Kovi** » Sun Apr 22, 2001 12:39 am

I think the Berserker is slightly better than the Barbarian rage as there are no penalties within the time of the rage and most of the fights can be finished within time. Berserker Rage also protects against imprisonment, but that is not a big deal, except Kangaxx.
But I agree that the barbarian's disadvantages (weaker armor, no specialization) are not too serious and overally the barbarian is a better fighter.
Still there is one big advantage of the berserker: it can dual class.
So if I have to vote for the pure classes: I would vote for the barbarian, but if we see the whole picture I would for the berserker.

KensaiRyu · Post by **KensaiRyu** » Sun Apr 22, 2001 4:13 am

One other thing about berzerker, though its not worth as much in BG2, Grand mastery. Vs Barbarian only allowed 2+.

Minsc&BOO · Post by **Minsc&BOO** » Sun Apr 22, 2001 7:14 am

And also by rage is the barbarian immune to level drain.Nice

. They move faster and they gain ressistances against weapons after they level up !!!

Promethion · Post by **Promethion** » Sun Apr 22, 2001 12:18 pm

Imprizon immunity will be more important in Throne of Bhaal, IMHO

Dúnadan · Post by **Dúnadan** » Sun Apr 22, 2001 1:10 pm

In ToB, what kinds of resistances will barbarians have? 100% against everything? I wonder where they will stop these things. Monks could move faster than lightning, have insane magic resistance, and their fists will be +4 or +5 weapons. The Thaco of the Kensai and Archer will most likely be in the -30's, and wizardslayers will remain as crappy as they are now. *Rubs hands* Can't wait!

Macros · Post by **Macros** » Sun Apr 22, 2001 2:33 pm

Berserker cos they can dual class, berserk makes you immune to just about every mind altering spell, they can get grand mastery (d/l the grand mastery fix) and can use any armor. If you want resists and speed, why bother with the barbarian when you can be a monk

Monk = practically invincible at higher levs.

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sun Apr 22, 2001 3:42 pm

berzerker/barb in wirl wind angd rage

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Mon Apr 23, 2001 5:24 am

now th bard vs F/M/T
bard has bard song

Astafas · Post by **Astafas** » Mon Apr 23, 2001 5:40 am

The bard wins easily. Biggest difference between the two: the way they level up. Bards level up extremely fast, the F/M/T extremely slow.

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Mon Apr 23, 2001 9:21 am

Barbarians are a lot of fun. With boots they move incredibly fast. With Defender of Easthaven they get 40% resistance to physical damage and can get Str 25 without Crom Faeyr. Immunity to backstab is nice against Ketta and the rune assasins. They have massive numbers of HP and great immunities from Rage. In my duel tests they consistently won.

However, Berzerkers get much better AC. Their Enrage gives even better immunities and still works at full effectiveness with Crom Faeyr.

All in all, I think I have to give a slight edge to the Berzerker, but I really like both of them.

ThorinOakensfield · Post by **ThorinOakensfield** » Mon Apr 23, 2001 1:41 pm

This is the hardest decision in my life.

Halfling Barbarian or Dwarven Bezerker?
No
Nooooooooooo
Can't choose
Barbarian 6 Bezerker 1