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Originally posted by j0ckser EXACTLY. When you need to dispose of someone legally, there are several ways to do it, and that is one. Then they on the hook for attacking you and there is no penalty.
*sigh* Unfortunately, my crime did not go unnoticed. The Thieves Guild somehow knew that I had killed the rich guy and wouldn't pay me for the key. Oh well. Didn't they know that it wasn't my fault? He attacked me first! Well, after I failed to pickpocket him.....
That there; exactly the kinda diversion we coulda used.
Originally posted by Gwalchmai *sigh* Unfortunately, my crime did not go unnoticed. The Thieves Guild somehow knew that I had killed the rich guy and wouldn't pay me for the key. Oh well. Didn't they know that it wasn't my fault? He attacked me first! Well, after I failed to pickpocket him.....
Did you pick up on the fact that the key could also be gotten off of the rich guys henchman in the Balmora Council Club? Its the hangout for the Commona Tong. Did you talk to the head Imperial Legion guy in Fort Moonmoth? He has a special job for you to do that entails rooting out corruption by getting rid of five Commona Tong in Balmora. Anyway its easy enough to talk to people (before they're dead) and find out which henchman has the key. He is surley but if you get your speechcraft and personality scores high enough and admire him he will give you the key. Or you can find out by talking to any thieves guild member that this group that includes the key carrying henchman is the same ones the Imperial Legion guy wants you to kill. In that case you can kill them all and take the key (you get scolded by the Thief Guild lizard guy but he gives you the reward).
"The Khajiit mind is not engineered for self-reflection. We simply do what we do and let the world be damned."Quote from the Ahziirr Traajijazeri
I was having a heck of a time killing the five Cammona Tong members, and I knew I would find the key if I could. I didn't know I could sweet-talk the Savant. So, I opted for going after the rich guy....
Almost immediately after I hit upon a workable strategy for getting the Cammona Tong...
Oh, well. Live and learn, I guess.
BTW, I see that the search function is once again active for the Gamebanshee (yay Buck!), so I should be able to answer my own stupid questions..... but I might still post the occasional anecdote from the game just for the fun of it!
That there; exactly the kinda diversion we coulda used.
Okay, the search function didn't help me here. I was wandering around north of Balmora and I found a dead person under a stone arch. His name was Tsiya and he had a skooma pipe. So far, no one has asked about this person. Is there a quest associated with him?
That there; exactly the kinda diversion we coulda used.
@ Gwally, yes there's a little subplot there.
highlight for Spoiler Check around for Tsiyas house
[url="http://www.gamebanshee.com"]GameBanshee[/url] Make your gaming scream! "I have seen them/I have watched them all fall/I have been them/I have watched myself crawl" "I will only complicate you/Trust in me and fall as well" "Quiet time...no more whine"
Oh, BTW, I started exploring to the east of Balmora, heading toward Molag Mar. Yes, the Cliff Racers are starting to get on my nerves! I am considering your method of disposal....
That there; exactly the kinda diversion we coulda used.
ROFL I love watching them fall out of the sky like little meteorites
[url="http://www.gamebanshee.com"]GameBanshee[/url] Make your gaming scream! "I have seen them/I have watched them all fall/I have been them/I have watched myself crawl" "I will only complicate you/Trust in me and fall as well" "Quiet time...no more whine"
Usually a long distance high power fire spell. I occasionally go into cheating mode (god mode) with a character I don't use any more, just for the pleasure of flaming the vermin out of the sky. It's fun to get a whole flock at once.
[url="http://www.gamebanshee.com"]GameBanshee[/url] Make your gaming scream! "I have seen them/I have watched them all fall/I have been them/I have watched myself crawl" "I will only complicate you/Trust in me and fall as well" "Quiet time...no more whine"
Originally posted by T'lainya Usually a long distance high power fire spell. I occasionally go into cheating mode (god mode) with a character I don't use any more, just for the pleasure of flaming the vermin out of the sky. It's fun to get a whole flock at once.
Originally posted by T'lainya Usually a long distance high power fire spell. I occasionally go into cheating mode (god mode) with a character I don't use any more, just for the pleasure of flaming the vermin out of the sky. It's fun to get a whole flock at once.
I prefer snow balling them to death, myself.
"Strength without wisdom falls by its own weight."
A word to the wise is sufficient Minerva (Semi-retired SYMer)
Originally posted by j0ckser tanx. I'll just use my trusty bow.
That's what I'm doing right now. I only just discovered that you cause a lot more damage with your bow when you pull the string all the way back! (Okay, these things take me a while!) So the beggers are dropping out of the sky for me now. Sometimes. Must get Marksman skill higher.....
Someday I hope to be able to flame or snowball them, but for now, I'll just plink at them!
That there; exactly the kinda diversion we coulda used.
There's nothing more satisfying than dropping those pesky things out of the sky with your bow, after getting their attention with a Soul Trap spell, of course.
There's nothing a little poison couldn't cure...
What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, ... to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if he people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security.
LOL! I tried to Soul Trap one of those fire guys. I must have failed the spell about 40 times! (he was stuck behind a tree and couldn't hurt me, so I just kept trying the spell....) I guess I need to train up my Mysticism skill.... Do Cliff Racers give you any kind of good gem level or are they just throw-away items?
That there; exactly the kinda diversion we coulda used.
Am I the only one who found the cliff racer's tummy side look too gross? The veins on the throats in particular.... They are too realistic! Each time those nasties fall from the sky on to my head, I shut my eyes and shake my head to avoid them. Yuck!
"Strength without wisdom falls by its own weight."
A word to the wise is sufficient Minerva (Semi-retired SYMer)
Originally posted by Gwalchmai LOL! I tried to Soul Trap one of those fire guys. I must have failed the spell about 40 times! (he was stuck behind a tree and couldn't hurt me, so I just kept trying the spell....) I guess I need to train up my Mysticism skill.... Do Cliff Racers give you any kind of good gem level or are they just throw-away items?
As a trapped soul the Cliff Racer comes up short. They are weapons practice fodder and not worth a petty soul gem. The best thing you can trap in a petty soul is a Shalk (sells for 300 gps). Rats, Nix hounds and Racers are worth only 100 gps. If the Racer you were trying to trap was behind a tree its possible that the soul trap spell was hitting the tree instead of the Racer. If you can see your spell travel out toward the target it should be successful if it hits the victim.
"The Khajiit mind is not engineered for self-reflection. We simply do what we do and let the world be damned."Quote from the Ahziirr Traajijazeri
Originally posted by Storm_fire i-wonder-how-much-vivec's-soul-is-worth? Ooh-i-wonder-if-you-can-get-Almalexia's-soul?
I can't remember, but check the construction set; I'm sure they are both the same.
edited post - I stand corrected: Vivec's soul is 1000, Almalexia's is 1500. By comparison, a golden saint and ascended sleeper have souls of 400.
FYI - the enchantment value of a soul only affects the charge for that enchantment, not the amount of the enchantment that can be 'stuffed' into the item.
