Slayer

Leonardo · Post by **Leonardo** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:17 pm

Does anybody consistently use it besides (spoiler):

- The Illithid lair in Underdark
- Demi-lich bashing
if at al?

Even with Ascension installed, I hardly find it useful. Not even against Improved Irenicus.
Fighters fight best without it, mages and clerics should be able to do more damage by casting spells. Maybe thieves could benefit for it, but the only one I've played was a f\t multi, so he fought better without it anyway.

Ieo · Post by **Ieo** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:34 pm

I don't use it at all; it was useful as a plot device during Spellhold, IMO, but after that, meh... Honestly, to keep it more interesting I think they should have left the transformation a semi-random occurrence, and perhaps tied a little more to the romances? Dunno. I only liked it as a plot device, though, even a weak one at that.

Screaming Johny · Post by **Screaming Johny** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:41 pm

I don't even bother transforming for Lich bashing or the Illithid lair. I used it a couple of times in my first game (when I didn't even know about the Illithid cheese), but have found it useless ever since.

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 4:35 pm

I think I pnly turned into a slayer once. It was enough to see that the change sucked.... no spells and no weapons...... pssss, ataleast ascention adds to it abit.....or was it some other mod.... not sure....

Baldursgate Fan · Post by **Baldursgate Fan** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 5:57 pm

Never used it voluntarily. Turned into slayer in the bodhi lair and didn't like it; I started killing my own party. No fun.

globester · Post by **globester** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 3:41 am

I only use it to lose some rep points if rep gets too high again :/
I do this because I always have Korgy in my party(love him

) and he does the bashing.

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 3:56 am

Originally posted by globester
I only use it to lose some rep points if rep gets too high again :/
I do this because I always have Korgy in my party(love him ) and he does the bashing.

ohhh

I never thought of using it like that...... I too almost always have an eveil party, bt alas I'm too good natured in RL so I get loads of rep points.....

globester · Post by **globester** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 2:27 pm

who voted "what" btw?

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 2:46 pm

Originally posted by globester
who voted "what" btw?

probably some prankster, or someone new to the game....

HellMonkey · Post by **HellMonkey** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:46 pm

Ive used when i played bg2 my first time through. but later on it is preetty useless, but its fun to watch some 4 armed creature ripping another to shreds.

Daragen · Post by **Daragen** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 7:12 pm

I usually only use it for rep loss. I looks cool, but otherwise is pretty weak. I use the ctrl+R cheat for permanent shapechange on my thief as soon as he gets use any item. Heh, really fun.

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:00 am

cast prot from magic energy or energy to allow you to stay slayer longer....

the damage the slayer form takes is magic damage, but you can still get killed if you stay slayer too long...

also, if you have tactics mod, and in a fit of masochism installed improved beholders, it will protect you from hive mother imprisonment....

still nowhere nearly as useful as spell immunity abjuration

Taco Magus · Post by **Taco Magus** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 5:59 am

Originally posted by globester
I only use it to lose some rep points if rep gets too high again :/
I do this because I always have Korgy in my party(love him ) and he does the bashing.

Thats what i use it for

ive been playing an all evil party alot recently, another good ways is in under dark where u get to throw the slaves in to the fire pit

Ron_Lugge · Post by **Ron_Lugge** » Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:07 pm

Originally posted by Baldursgate Fan
Never used it voluntarily. Turned into slayer in the bodhi lair and didn't like it; I started killing my own party. No fun.

When you transform voluntarily you don't start attacking other party members; instead, you get the abilities (which seem to be immunity to imprison; as far as I can tell thats it) of the slayer with just a quick reputation drop.

fable · Post by **fable** » Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:47 pm

Ron's right. (And welcome to GB.) The keyword is "voluntarily." At first when you change, you have no control over the monster that's surfaced. After a couple of times, however, you get hold of it. FWIW, my suggestion is to send your party screaming for the hills when those first changes hit your PC. When the icon for the change appears among your powers, you'll know that you've got a conscious handle on it.

Latro · Post by **Latro** » Thu Aug 14, 2003 7:50 pm

Seldom use it as i find that by the time you get this ability you are better in original shape.

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Taco Magus · Post by **Taco Magus** » Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:50 pm

yea fables right...run to the nearest door and shut it...the slayer is to stupid to open it(i think your int drops alot)

Ron_Lugge · Post by **Ron_Lugge** » Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:56 pm

The trick about closing the door / keeping your party well away from the slayer transformation has one big disadvantage - it prevents any romance / NPC interreactions.

edit:

Personally, I prefer just running away.

Of course, if you accidently left the boots of speed on the PC...

Mini Me · Post by **Mini Me** » Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:21 am

i never used it. if it could penetrate protections or some other ability on each hit it would be good, but otherwise its just like a summoned undead to me and my character is far superior

Jess · Post by **Jess** » Fri Aug 15, 2003 5:07 am

I used it a lot in the first game, when I thought a fighter mage cleric was a good idea. I still prefer to use it in the Illithid lair, my rep is usually 20 by then anyway.

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