kensai/mage or fighter/mage?

FilipeTeles · Post by **FilipeTeles** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:51 pm

i will install tatics mod,and i want to know what is the best char/party to play....i thinked in a fighter/mage or kensai/mge what should be better?

for the party i thinked

keldorn,jaheira,aerie,jan but minsc is better than keldorn?

fable · Post by **fable** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 8:35 pm

There's a thread in the ToB forum in which Minsc, Keldorn, Saverok and Korgan are compared. If you really need to calculate which one offers the most offensive or defensive power, go check it out.

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 8:54 pm

Personally, for a power-playing class, I prefer the kensai/mage. For one, the kensai does not wear armour, so all of your abilities will be designed for hairy-chested melee fighting

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 9:36 pm

dual class for a larger party, since you only need to spend xp on a single class so it will level faster...

multiclass for a smaller party, since the xp will roll in fast...

or...urm....

you could make a kensai/mage multi using shadowkeeper if you really want to try out both and have a hard time deciding...

Mirk · Post by **Mirk** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:31 am

for a warrior/mage combo, kensai is the perfect choice, mainly due to his armour restriction, which BEGS for using of the magic protections (stoneskin, protection from magical weapons, mislead, etc) and also should not put you in a tough dilemma about what to put on as your armour - just use the best robe you can afford:

spoilers:

robe of the good archmage, ac5, saves +1, magic resistance +5% - trademeet merchant
rode of vecna, ac5, magic resistance +5%, casting speed -4 - bonus merchant in adventurer's mart
robe of the apparenti, ac3 - planar sphere, mage stronghold quest.

end spoiler

another thing i would like to add from my expierience with the kensai/mage (played it only once, too powerful) is NOT to make him your only wizard spellcaster. i did this at first, and he just was a mage with lots of HP's. now, as soon as i picked up imoen, and started using the kensai/mage as frontliner, which is the way he should be used - with the buffs (tenser's transformation made him unstoppable), protections (from mirror image to absolute immunity) and dispells (remove magic, BREACH!!!), while imoen concentrated on the offencive spellcasting, he started to raelly shine, as a such a powerful combo should

FilipeTeles · Post by **FilipeTeles** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:51 pm

I agree,my solo Kensai/mage was too powerful that I stopped to play.I decided my new party
me-figher/mage
keldorn
jaheira
jan
aerie
lots of multiclass very nice I already started..

JonIrenicus · Post by **JonIrenicus** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 7:30 pm

When did you guys start dueling from kensi to mage?

FilipeTeles · Post by **FilipeTeles** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 8:42 pm

I dual at lvl.9
today I did a Kensai/mage with proficience in
quarter staff***** and two handed weapon**
he just rox,in about 2 hours playng look my items(without cheating)

***Items Spoiler***
staff of the magi(one of my firsts quest)
2 rings of gaax(one pickpocketed by my familiar)
robe of vecna
cloak of sewers
amulet of power
boots of speed
belt of piercing
the only item I would change in the future will be the belt for belt of inertial barrier and the cloak I use 4 at the end
-Non-Detection
-Cloak of Protection +2
-Cloak of Mirroring
-Cloak of Displacement

JackOfClubs · Post by **JackOfClubs** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:54 pm

Originally posted by FilipeTeles
I dual at lvl.9
today I did a Kensai/mage with proficience in
quarter staff***** and two handed weapon**
he just rox,in about 2 hours playng look my items(without cheating)

Yes, Quarterstaff is a great weapon for Kensai/Mages. In addition to the Staff of Magi, there are the 3 elemental staves (which instakill elementals) and the Rod of Smiting (which instakills Golems). Not to mention the Rod of Terror, which has some interesting cheesy uses in addition to its legitimate use of disabling enemies by causing them to panic.

JonIrenicus · Post by **JonIrenicus** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:36 pm

They have a chance of instant killing. I have hit a greater air element at least 4-5 times with Staff of Air and it didn't kill with the instant kill ability.

FilipeTeles · Post by **FilipeTeles** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:48 pm

I don't have ToB but Staff of the Ram +6 should be great......

Olmer · Post by **Olmer** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:34 am

Originally posted by FilipeTeles
I don't have ToB but Staff of the Ram +6 should be great......

Yes, it is

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:59 am

If you don't have Throne of Bhaal, Fighter/Mage multi is much less powerful than a dual. You get no kit, you get less hit points, you get less mage levels in the end. If you do have Throne of Bhaal all this gets put aside by the uber amounts of uber high level abilities you receive as a multi.

If you dual, you'd be pretty dumb for not taking a kit unless it's strictly for roleplaying purposes. Kensai gives minor AC and big to hit and damage bonuses, berserker gives rage for some decent bonuses and great immunities.