What does Wish do?

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 5:18 am

Poor me, don't have ToB yet...

But I'd really like to know what options Wish gives, what they do, and what Wisdom is needed for them...

Probably the only good reason (roleplaying excluded) to have a Wisdom of more than 3.

koz-ivan · Post by **koz-ivan** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 6:23 am

i've tried it w/ a wisdom 18 and i still couldn't get it to do anything really usefull.

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 6:49 am

I read some stuff in other posts about "restoring the party" and supposedly getting back spells and innate abilities. Limited Wish does something like that, but only very minor. Hence, my interest.

I'd still like to know, of course.

Dúnadan · Post by **Dúnadan** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 7:39 am

Here's a list of all the wishes:

*'Improved Haste' on all enemies in the area.
*Level Drain two levels from each party member.
*Bring a 'Meteor Swarm' down upon the caster.
*Temporarily remove half of the caster's HP.
*Caster loses all memorized spells.
*Party loses 10,000 gp.
*Temporarily reduce the Strength of all party members to 3.
*Temporarily reduce the Dexterity of all party members to 3.
*Temporarily reduce the Constitution of all party members to 3.
*Temporarily reduce the Wisdom of all party members to 3.
*Temporarily reduce the Intelligence of all party members to 3.
*Temporarily reduce the Charisma of all party members to 3.
*Heal all enemies in the area.
*Temporarily remove 15% of all party members' HPs.
*Summon an extra hostile monster into the area.
*Everyone in the area, both party members and enemies, become intoxicated.
*'Breach' on everyone in the area, including the party.
*Blow all people, including party members, away from the caster.
*Heal everyone, party members and enemies included.
*Temporarily set Strength to 18 for everyone in the area, including enemies.
*'Miscast Magic' on everyone in the area, including party members.
*'Magic Resistance' on everyone in the area, including enemies.
*'Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wilting' on everyone in the area, including the party.
*Incur bad luck on everyone in the area, including party members.
*'Silence' on everyone in the area, including party members.
*'Haste' everyone in the area, including enemies.
*'Improved Haste' on all party members.
*'Breach' on all enemies in the area.
*'Restoration' on all party members.
*Raise all party members' characteristics to 25 for 4 rounds.
*'Resurrection' on all dead party members.
*All party members gain the temporary ability 'Greater Deathblow'.
*All party members gain the temporary ability 'Hardiness'.
*Create a random wand in caster's inventory.
*Create a random potion in the caster's inventory.
*Make it as if the entire party has just rested a full night and re-memorized all their spells.
*Cast a double-length 'Time Stop' and 'Improved Alacrity' on the caster.

Armadin of Clan Geddin · Tue Jun 26, 2001 8:10 am

Are all these one time wishes, like Limited Wish's Shapechange etc?

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 10:04 am

Thanks Dúnadan!

Make it as if the entire party has just rested a full night and re-memorized all their spells.

Hopefully this is a one-time wish? Does it restore the Wish itself?

Cast a double-length 'Time Stop' and 'Improved Alacrity' on the caster.

Again, hopefully one-time?

The rest is not all that interesting, actually... Too much "everyone in the area, enemies and party" stuff. Still good if used right.

Does anyone know the minimum Wisdom requirements?

koz-ivan · Post by **koz-ivan** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 1:06 pm

i've tried the wish w/ a wisdom of 18 & int 21 (both due to potions) and could not get a favorable result w/ the spell.

imo this spell sucks almost as much as know alignment.

i would have hoped that since they decided to include it, and it's one of the most powerful mage spells ever, it would actually be fun to cast one. i thought wrong. at least on the plus side "level drain" is no longer the worst 9th lv spell. ltd wish is much better imo.

and while i'm in rant mode - what's the deal w/ 10th lv spells. they are not, they are 9th lv spells called 10th level. wtf.
and some kinda do the same stuff, comet & dragon dreath.

Irenin · Post by **Irenin** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 2:24 pm

uh are you joking me? Dragons breath is way more powerful than any attack like it in the game. It doesnt affect your party members, it knocks back enemies and does 20d10 dmg. NOT the same thing.

Irenin · Post by **Irenin** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 2:28 pm

Oh you meant comet and dragons breath are alike, yeah then ill agree. -

Dúnadan · Post by **Dúnadan** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 2:30 pm

Regretfully, I did acquire that list from another site, and should have stated so earlier. I got it from Dan Simpson's BG II Guide at [url="http://www.gamefaqs.com"]www.gamefaqs.com[/url]

glory · Post by **glory** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 9:35 pm

Tried out Wish earlier today with edwin...heres what happened.

edwin (wisdom 10)
negotiated and was able to get "make it like all party members have rested for a full night"...which restored all spells including the initial wish spell. (very cool).

edwin (wisdom 18 from potion of insight)
negotiated and got a bunch or nice options including hardiness or deathblow on party members and the above rest.

so it looks like you can do the full rest over and over...you could memorise 3 wish spells use the first 2 to cast hardiness...giving all 80% resistance to damage then use the last one to get the 3 wish spells back...cheesy

White Rabbit · Post by **White Rabbit** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 10:23 pm

What options you can choose with wish are random, so only sometimes you will get the rest party thing. Once in a while you get some really crappy options and you still have to choose one. All in all its a great spell if you are losing a battle. Also my dwarf mage likes the wish that gets everybody drunk!

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Wed Jun 27, 2001 1:58 am

it looks like you can do the full rest over and over...

Argh!

What options you can choose with wish are random, so only sometimes you will get the rest party thing.

Phew! (but still...)

Once in a while you get some really crappy options and you still have to choose one.

Argh! (but justice after all)

What do you want.....the ability to wish your party invulnerable?

Yes! Otiluke's Resilient Sphere on everyone!

White Rabbit · Post by **White Rabbit** » Wed Jun 27, 2001 2:14 am

In my opinion the wish spell was done well. It is just quirky enough to be believable (Drunkedness), powerfull enough to save you from certain defeat, yet extremely dangerous.

[ 06-27-2001: Message edited by: White Rabbit ]

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Wed Jun 27, 2001 5:39 am

If your wizard has bad Wisdom but you really, really want a specific Limited Wish, you can get another character with good Wisdom to talk to the Dao before he talks to the caster.

Does that work for Wish as well?

If so, why even bother raising your Wisdom above 3 for reasons other than roleplaying purposes...

Locke Da'averan · Post by **Locke Da'averan** » Wed Jun 27, 2001 3:37 pm

Originally posted by Xyx:
If so, why even bother raising your Wisdom above 3 for reasons other than roleplaying purposes...

The players handbook says that if you have a wis under 13 your spells may fizzle->fail.
3 points in wisdom causes 50% spell failure, so in my case i never let my wisdom go under 13 with spellcasters

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 1:30 pm

Clerics only i think

mikeheitz · Post by **mikeheitz** » Thu Aug 02, 2001 1:38 pm

When I tried the Wish spell with a char with Wis below 13, the dialog box said that the Djinn really confused me and I really didn't know what he was talking about. When I tried it again after boosting the Wis up with some potions, I was basically backing the Djinn into a corner with my negotiating skills and ended up with much better options. So, Wis does indeed play a role when casting this spell.