Suggestion for a NPC

lompo · Post by **lompo** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:32 am

I'm playing the following party (I'm still in cap.2):
PC: horc fighter(kensai)/thief
Jaheira: cleric/ranger
Tashia
Korgan
Solaufein

For my sixth char. I have some doubt:
(swash-)Imoen/Haerdalis: Imoen for roleplaying reason and because is a better mage; Haer. is a lesser mage but a backup fighter (plus the the extra bard abilities).
I would try Haer. (never played him before) but I'm not sure if in my party I'll need a better mage.

Galmar · Post by **Galmar** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:41 am

Aeire looks like a good choice here.

UncleScratchy · Post by **UncleScratchy** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:42 am

How did you get a half-orc kensai/thief? Did you hack in the kit to a multiclass F/T with Shadowkeeper?

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:32 am

Originally posted by UncleScratchy
How did you get a half-orc kensai/thief? Did you hack in the kit to a multiclass F/T with Shadowkeeper?

I think in the same way he got Jaheira to be a Cleric/Ranger

lompo · Post by **lompo** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:01 am

That's right, I used SK to give a kit to a m.class.

nephtu · Post by **nephtu** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:04 pm

Hmm..

Isn't Jaheira a great cleric ranger?

Any NPC can happily add in, flavour to taste. I'd also go with more magery, so Imoen or HD would be fine, both bring something useful.

I'm assuming Sola is not actually there, you're just planning to pick him up later.

Xanth · Post by **Xanth** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:37 pm

I'm not sure what the problem here is... You want Imoen (who you would edit to be a swashbuckler/mage) for roleplaying reasons... But you want Haer for his class...

So why not just edit Imoen so that she's a blade? You're already planning on editing her anyway, and you've edited your protagonist and Jaheira... Make Imoen a blade, have your character of choice and your class of choice. Problem solved.

lompo · Post by **lompo** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:12 am

Re: Hmm..

Originally posted by nephtu
Isn't Jaheira a great cleric ranger?

Any NPC can happily add in, flavour to taste. I'd also go with more magery, so Imoen or HD would be fine, both bring something useful.

I'm assuming Sola is not actually there, you're just planning to pick him up later.

Indeed Jaheira is a great c/r.
I like to change the class of NPC when I start new game, so you can try different classes without going through Mclass (and the Mclass Char are boring!).
In another game I'm playing Jaheira as a fighter/avenger with Edwin sorcerer.

At the moment the party is PC, Jaheira, Korgan and Tashia.

lompo · Post by **lompo** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:15 am

Originally posted by Xanth
I'm not sure what the problem here is... You want Imoen (who you would edit to be a swashbuckler/mage) for roleplaying reasons... But you want Haer for his class...

So why not just edit Imoen so that she's a blade? You're already planning on editing her anyway, and you've edited your protagonist and Jaheira... Make Imoen a blade, have your character of choice and your class of choice. Problem solved.

That would partly solve the question, the other part is not having played a bard before I don't know if the loss of spellcasting (compared to Imoen) is compensated by the other abilities and how really capable fighter is a blade.

Bruce Lee · Post by **Bruce Lee** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:31 am

You have tashia and soulafein. I think you'll have enough spells even if you turn imoen into a swashbuckler.
Blades are good. I know many people disagree here. You can't expect them to just walk in and tank in every fight. They are more a character that can help out here and there. If you buff him with spells and spins he can be a super tank though. And in ToB you can use the bard song to great effect. He gets traps aswell.

Screaming Johny · Post by **Screaming Johny** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:18 am

Blades are awesome, especially since the manual isn't accurate. A Blade doesn't get a Pick Pocket Penalty, and the spells actually go up to level 8 by the end of the game. The blades only disadvantage left is the crappy bard song. That is solved by the awesome enhanced bard song in ToB.

So, you have a backup mage that can dual-wield & wear any of the several Bard's chain-mail, that hardly uses these skills because they constantly play the enhanced bard song.

And Imoen is a believable blade as she has the stats and is part Neutral. And her dialogue fits with the class as well.

Bruce Lee · Post by **Bruce Lee** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:17 pm

Unless you install ease of use spell progression bards don't progress beyond level 6 spells. With it though they can eventually cast level 8 spells.

Elemental ZOOT · Post by **Elemental ZOOT** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:51 pm

I like using Haer-Dalis in TOB and same W/ Korgan but since Haer-Dalis and my P.C will fight over Aerie and Korgan will kill Aerie they don't get along together.

Haer-Dalis, In TOB actully had more spells than Aerie had
as in a mage
I use him for mostly offensive/defensive

Aerie is just for healing and attacking with Sling +5

lompo · Post by **lompo** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:08 am

Thank you guys for the advice.
I think I'll chose the blade, so I'll give a try to Haer. and if he annoy me I'll switch with Imoen changed to a blade.
BTW what is this mod that change the spell progression of bard so they get lev. 8 spells?
Is the "ease of use" mod from Weimar?