I have read gamers reccomending starting with heavy armour to boost endurance early, then switch to light armour later.
Medium armour seems to be very much out of favour. When I first began this game I restarted it a couple of times as I began to understand what I wanted to do, and how to do it.
My first attempt at this game had me specialising in medium armour and as soon as I could afford it I had mostly medium bonemold armour (rated 20-24) and a few pieces of medium dreugh armour (those pieces I could find) at around 50. This seemed pretty good to me at the time, (and it looks quite cool too).
Heavy armour, worn in later attempts only gave me about a 15 rating, and light seemed no worse at about 14. I mixed and matched the two, heavy cuirasse and shield which seem to get a lot of hits, and light stuff for things like greaves which get hit less.
Now I am a little confused as to how armour really works. I can see that as you rise up in levels and your armour-wearing skills improve, that the same armour rises in it's rating. But from the little I have already seen it would appear medium armour is an excellent option.
I have only cranked myself up to level seven so far, so it's early days, but can someone give me an overview on armour types?
One final thing, is there any benefit from wearing all one kind of armour other than it looking good?
Light, medium, or heavy armour?
Light, medium, or heavy armour?
The head of the guild asked a new prospect to descibe himself in as few words as possible. The prospect made it in one, "Concise".
Heavy: Best raiting by far but also heaviest.
Medium: Good raiting not very heavy all around good armor
Light: Ok raiting very light very good for thieves.
as to looking good and stuff it doesnt matter what armor you have as long as you like it.
p.s. my favorite armour is glass the best light armor......
Medium: Good raiting not very heavy all around good armor
Light: Ok raiting very light very good for thieves.
as to looking good and stuff it doesnt matter what armor you have as long as you like it.
p.s. my favorite armour is glass the best light armor......
Ahhhhh shut up
they all have their strong points.
Light - it's light. if you have low strength or like to move fast, but not as protective.
medium - it's not as heavy as heavy, and offers better protection than light.
heavy - very, very strong. just expect to walk everywhere. and keep your inventory managed.
My favourite's medium. as a fighter and veteran pack rat, I need the spare weight for my prodigious inventory, and the protection is very good - although the best medium armour really annoys ordinators.
Light - it's light. if you have low strength or like to move fast, but not as protective.
medium - it's not as heavy as heavy, and offers better protection than light.
heavy - very, very strong. just expect to walk everywhere. and keep your inventory managed.
My favourite's medium. as a fighter and veteran pack rat, I need the spare weight for my prodigious inventory, and the protection is very good - although the best medium armour really annoys ordinators.
Here where the flattering and mendacious swarm
Of lying epitaths their secrets keep,
At last incapable of further harm
The lewd forefathers of the village sleep.
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At last incapable of further harm
The lewd forefathers of the village sleep.
I dont know too much about the subject but I was under the impression that it depended on your skill and class. a theif who was very proficient in light armor would have better protection than a warrior with heavy armor, who sucked. Wearing heavy armor if you dont have the skill would be pointless under those circumstances.
my advice is stick to what represents you. thief= light warrior=medium paladin=heavy, that sort of thing.
my advice is stick to what represents you. thief= light warrior=medium paladin=heavy, that sort of thing.
I understood the basics of armour. However, it is hard to work out the relative merits of armour because none of their values are fixed, and vary according to your skill rating in that armour (and your overall level too ?)
As I said earlier, when I tried my first attempt, the best armour seemed to be medium, but that was misleading, because I had medium armour as a major ability along with with being an Argonian (+5 to medium)
I also chose 'The Lady' starsign, which gave me +25 endurance. I am still not sure if that had any effect (on my armour rating) other than to give me a higher maximum level I can train medium armour to.
In light armour I've seen netch, chitin and at the top end is glass Is there anything between chitin and glass?
In medium there is the chain, bonemold, I think dragonscale is next and then dreugh. I'm not sure if anything is above dreugh, and I'd like to know if there is. Can you eventually acquire a full suit of dreugh armour, I've only found helm, cuirasse and shield to this point?
In heavy there is iron stuff, steel stuff, silver stuff and maybe others before you get to ebony at the top.
Last question, do the people you barter with acquire better stuff to sell you, as you progress in levels?
Thank you in advance of your replies.....Kingslake.
As I said earlier, when I tried my first attempt, the best armour seemed to be medium, but that was misleading, because I had medium armour as a major ability along with with being an Argonian (+5 to medium)
I also chose 'The Lady' starsign, which gave me +25 endurance. I am still not sure if that had any effect (on my armour rating) other than to give me a higher maximum level I can train medium armour to.
In light armour I've seen netch, chitin and at the top end is glass Is there anything between chitin and glass?
In medium there is the chain, bonemold, I think dragonscale is next and then dreugh. I'm not sure if anything is above dreugh, and I'd like to know if there is. Can you eventually acquire a full suit of dreugh armour, I've only found helm, cuirasse and shield to this point?
In heavy there is iron stuff, steel stuff, silver stuff and maybe others before you get to ebony at the top.
Last question, do the people you barter with acquire better stuff to sell you, as you progress in levels?
Thank you in advance of your replies.....Kingslake.
The head of the guild asked a new prospect to descibe himself in as few words as possible. The prospect made it in one, "Concise".
I think the Ordinator's armor is the strongest Medium Armor around, unless you have Tribunal, in which case there's another called... Royal something... something like that. It's supposed to be even more powerful. That you can get in Mournhold.
But personaly, i think Medium armor does the trick. It's strong, it's protective, not as mediocre as Light, not as bulky as Heavy. Besides, my character Jerridan (Khajit Fighter). Benefits mostly of Medium, cause it dosn't stop his agility. Makes him still run fast, and jump high.
But personaly, i think Medium armor does the trick. It's strong, it's protective, not as mediocre as Light, not as bulky as Heavy. Besides, my character Jerridan (Khajit Fighter). Benefits mostly of Medium, cause it dosn't stop his agility. Makes him still run fast, and jump high.
Usstan inbal l' uyl'udith ssinssrigg jihard wun l' tresk'ri! ^^ And it's true too hehe
yeah ordinator armor is pretty hard stuff, and its worth a crapload of money, if you can steal it. I still think that you should make it according to your character though, and not just whatever is the best, but maybe thats my hardcore rp side talking.
I bet, if you reason it out, that the best armor rating that is possible to get is with heavy armor and lots of heavy armor skill. Numerically, at least, that would be the highest. But you would be like a walking concrete block. what kind of characters are you using?
I bet, if you reason it out, that the best armor rating that is possible to get is with heavy armor and lots of heavy armor skill. Numerically, at least, that would be the highest. But you would be like a walking concrete block. what kind of characters are you using?
in reply to pevans
What I am aiming for is a rounded character. It is rather hard to do that well, creating an uber fighter or magician or thief is easier as you can arrange things so as to peak the necessary abilities.
I chose a Breton male for the many +10's on spell schools, and the 50% magick resistance. I also selected magician as the favoured class to buff all those spell schools an extra 5 each.
However, to overcome the Breton weaknesses as a fighter, I specified strength and agility as my two favourite attributes to get them both cranked up by 10 (so they are 50 and 40). I also chose 'The Lady' starsign which upped my endurance 25 points from 30 to 55, and that also made my lad quite personable (now 65). I definitely did not want to pick 'The Atronach' birthsign for a power wizard, since that was not my aim.
My major skill choices were:
medium armour, (end)
block (agi)
longsword (str)
conjuration (int)
mysticism (will)
My minor skills were:
marksman (agi)
restoration (will)
enchantment (int)
security (int)
speechcraft (per)
For speed I will just have to walk slowly until I can get something to speed me up.
My biggest problem here was balancing things so most of the abilities are represented. I would have picked Alchemy instead of Marksman as a minor skill, except for the fact that it would have been my fourth skill whose governing attribute was intelligence (while for Marksman it is agility)...
What I am aiming for is a rounded character. It is rather hard to do that well, creating an uber fighter or magician or thief is easier as you can arrange things so as to peak the necessary abilities.
I chose a Breton male for the many +10's on spell schools, and the 50% magick resistance. I also selected magician as the favoured class to buff all those spell schools an extra 5 each.
However, to overcome the Breton weaknesses as a fighter, I specified strength and agility as my two favourite attributes to get them both cranked up by 10 (so they are 50 and 40). I also chose 'The Lady' starsign which upped my endurance 25 points from 30 to 55, and that also made my lad quite personable (now 65). I definitely did not want to pick 'The Atronach' birthsign for a power wizard, since that was not my aim.
My major skill choices were:
medium armour, (end)
block (agi)
longsword (str)
conjuration (int)
mysticism (will)
My minor skills were:
marksman (agi)
restoration (will)
enchantment (int)
security (int)
speechcraft (per)
For speed I will just have to walk slowly until I can get something to speed me up.
My biggest problem here was balancing things so most of the abilities are represented. I would have picked Alchemy instead of Marksman as a minor skill, except for the fact that it would have been my fourth skill whose governing attribute was intelligence (while for Marksman it is agility)...
The head of the guild asked a new prospect to descibe himself in as few words as possible. The prospect made it in one, "Concise".
well, I think there eventually is a specific ordinator-killing quest, or try the merchants at the ghostgate. or go sneaking around their various vivec hangouts.
also, there is at least one mission where you meet hostile ordinators.
or you can just put on an ordinator helm and find one to whoop.
regarding armour values: I've maxed medium and almost maxed heavy, and I can take an educated guess about light and unarmoured. basically, the heavier the class of armour, the higher the base armour value. however, the value is modified by your skill, which is why those skilled in light armour will get a lot more protection from some leather trousers than from a pair of deadric greaves. the best armour is, up to a point, the one you are most skilled in.
also, there is at least one mission where you meet hostile ordinators.
or you can just put on an ordinator helm and find one to whoop.
regarding armour values: I've maxed medium and almost maxed heavy, and I can take an educated guess about light and unarmoured. basically, the heavier the class of armour, the higher the base armour value. however, the value is modified by your skill, which is why those skilled in light armour will get a lot more protection from some leather trousers than from a pair of deadric greaves. the best armour is, up to a point, the one you are most skilled in.
Here where the flattering and mendacious swarm
Of lying epitaths their secrets keep,
At last incapable of further harm
The lewd forefathers of the village sleep.
Of lying epitaths their secrets keep,
At last incapable of further harm
The lewd forefathers of the village sleep.
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heavy armor does have a higher rating
but with 100 heavy armor skill and 100 medium armor skill, i compared the Ebony Mail (artifact medium armor) with the Dragonbone Cuirass (artifact heavy armor) and although the dragonbone cuirass had a higher armor rating, the shield bonus from wearing the Ebony Mail actually gave me a higher armor rating. plus the ebony mail only ways 5 more than the Cuirass of the Saviors Hide (artifact light armor)
currently i only wear the Ebony Mail. the rest of my character is unarmored except for a Telvanni Cephalopod helm because of their high enchantment capability
but with 100 heavy armor skill and 100 medium armor skill, i compared the Ebony Mail (artifact medium armor) with the Dragonbone Cuirass (artifact heavy armor) and although the dragonbone cuirass had a higher armor rating, the shield bonus from wearing the Ebony Mail actually gave me a higher armor rating. plus the ebony mail only ways 5 more than the Cuirass of the Saviors Hide (artifact light armor)
currently i only wear the Ebony Mail. the rest of my character is unarmored except for a Telvanni Cephalopod helm because of their high enchantment capability
*sleeps*
Originally posted by Adahn
Do any of you guys know if there's a pair of Indoril leggins somewhere?
There's a dead ordinator in a Dunmer temple southeast of Urshilaku camp who has a complete ordinator armor set. However, when I wore this suit in Vivec all the ordinators attacked me saying that my armor was sacred. There was no bounty on my head for the piles of ordinators I left behind tho since they attacked me.
regarding ordinator armour: the helmets definitely trigger attack, and I think the breastplate does too. I'm not sure about greaves, but all the other pieces are definitely safe to wear around ordinators.
Here where the flattering and mendacious swarm
Of lying epitaths their secrets keep,
At last incapable of further harm
The lewd forefathers of the village sleep.
Of lying epitaths their secrets keep,
At last incapable of further harm
The lewd forefathers of the village sleep.
