Ioun Stones

Thornhill · Post by **Thornhill** » Sat Nov 18, 2000 6:51 pm

Could someone please help me out here. I have found several Ioun Stones, it seams the only characters that can use them are the same ones who can where a helmet, fighters and clerics. Why can't my bard use them? I find that very frustrating!

Crovax · Post by **Crovax** » Sat Nov 18, 2000 7:21 pm

the ioun stones are not that good. Most of the time i'd rather use a helmet(far better than those stones). And yes, IT IS FRUSTATING that the only characters that could benefit (the ones that cant wear helmets) from ioun stones cant use 'm.

But I have heard that a kensai could really use one of those to his advantage. I dont know this for sure becuase I havenot played one yet (NOT WEARING ARMOR SOUNDS A BIT 2 DANGEROUS FOR ME).

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Smack Dragon · Post by **Smack Dragon** » Sat Nov 18, 2000 8:16 pm

My monk, who can't wear armor, can use a stone, and my fighter/mage can wear one and still cast spells. So personally I love the stones... they could do more but it beats nothing at all.

Jurosementalistile · Post by **Jurosementalistile** » Sat Nov 18, 2000 8:36 pm

Smack Dragon, fighter/mages can wear helmets without restriction, so I have to agree that they are better than Ioun stones. Helm of Balduran does everything that two stones do and more.

Thornhill · Post by **Thornhill** » Sat Nov 18, 2000 9:53 pm

Hey thanx for the response guys~
Its all pretty much as I expected. Unless I decide to play a kensai or monk the stones are useless. Niether of those classes are really my style so I will just sell my stone collection. Thanx again!

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Mon Nov 20, 2000 10:56 am

Helmets should be better since they protect from crits, but I've found that although they don't say they do and probably aren't supposed to, the Ioun stones also stop Crits.

This makes the Ioun stone with the +1 Thac0 and +10% hit points competitive with the best helmets.

However, they seem to be intended for Monk/Kensai.

Jhareth of house Noquar · Wed Jan 03, 2001 1:47 pm

The Regeneration Ioun stone is useful, It stays in my pocket until it's time to rest, than I equip it on my most injured fighter before sleeping. Saves healing spells upon waking up, than I can slap a helmet back on the big ugly.

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Drakron Du´Dark · Post by **Drakron Du´Dark** » Wed Jan 03, 2001 2:47 pm

I agree, ion stones were desigd(in Ad&D) for classes that can not wear helmets. they were made mosty for mages(some were encahnted to increse spells slots) but for a unkown reason in bg only classes that are alowed helmets can use one.
Funny thing, there was a Laural of sune I think back in IWD that could be used by any class.

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mikel · Post by **mikel** » Thu Jan 04, 2001 12:47 am

Nighthawk's experiences are correct:
The ioun stones in BG2 indeed have a small bug: They *are* treated as helmet.
This is a disadvantage for some classes, but on the other hand an ioun stone prevents a critical hit in BG2 and has some benefits

XtraniuM · Post by **XtraniuM** » Thu Jan 04, 2001 1:42 am

I use the ion stone with +1 ac and +1 thac0, I use it because my pc look much cooler with it...

Rail · Post by **Rail** » Thu Jan 04, 2001 3:26 am

Interestingly enough, I've found the same about the Mask of Strohm III, that it protects against critical hits as well. Any class can wear the mask, can't they?

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Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Thu Jan 04, 2001 7:16 am

Rail as far as I know all the classes can wear it and it also prevented critical hits on my mage.

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renyu · Post by **renyu** » Thu Jan 04, 2001 8:30 am

Originally posted by Jhareth of house Noquar:
The Regeneration Ioun stone is useful, It stays in my pocket until it's time to rest, than I equip it on my most injured fighter before sleeping. Saves healing spells upon waking up, than I can slap a helmet back on the big ugly.

hey hey i agree totally, with ring of regenerations and ring of gaxx nearly the whole party can go to sleep regenerating

Cyphus · Post by **Cyphus** » Thu Jan 04, 2001 9:07 am

well, in chapter 4 i had still not found any helmets better than the ion stones... baldruns helmet gives +* hit points, but the stone gives a %, so l8r on in the game the stone is better, because you have more hp, and so will gain more from having it

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu Jan 04, 2001 9:11 am

I don't see how a little stone whizzing round your head will stop a +4 warhammer of bonce-cracking from giving you a crit. Shouldn't there be a trade off between a regualr helm and stone powers?

As several have pointed out, others should then be able to use the stones. A mage can't wear a helm but nor can he have a little magic stone?

But then what do I know?