moral dilemmas

HiRo11er · Post by **HiRo11er** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:13 pm

POSSIBLE SPOILER

So I'm now playing the game for the second time, and after going light the first time I figured I'd be evil this time around. Now, is it just me or is it a lot easier to get DS points than LS points? It seems like I get DSP every time I talk to someone, and by the time I left Taris I was pretty much as mean as could be already. Last time I played I didn't get all the way to the white side until the absolute end.
It seems to me like the game was created that way to illustrate how much easier it is to fall to the dark side than to stay good. If that's the case I've got to give props to the designers who incorporated that element...

Anyway, to my moral dilemma. I don't have any problems at all being mean, and being able to threaten people into giving me extra credits is very sweet. However, I ran into a quest today that really stung me to go through with. I'm of course talking about the hopeless love between the kids of Matale and S-something (the settlers on Dantooine). Last time I played I rescued the kids, freed the minds of their parents and generally saved the day. This time however I manipulated them into killing each other off one by one, despite the pleading of pretty much everyone for me to stop...
It earned me massive DS points, but I don't know if it was worth it. I ruined so many promising futures!

I guess my point is that the dark side is truly dark, and not something you want to explore if you're a peace-loving samaritan. I know myself I might have to play the game yet again, just to atone for my sins this time around...

PS: Has anyone else encountered any moral dilemmas they felt were tough? Or are all you dark jedis out there evil & loving it??

Armisael · Post by **Armisael** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:36 am

This just depends on what type of person you are. That's not to say that there are people here who'd happily manipulate folks into killing one another, but if you distance yourself from the game world then what you do within it has little or no moral effect on you. When I first started playing I found most of the dark side options stupid or distasteful, but having played through... must've been at least fifteen times by now... I don't really care what my character does anymore.

Tipster · Post by **Tipster** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:22 am

I found myself chuckling evilly as I lured the fools to kill each other.

If you're really messed up in your head (like yours truly), you may want to make your teammates suffer. Enjoy!

Star Wars Geek · Post by **Star Wars Geek** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:05 pm

Honestly, I hate being evil...i mean, i'd like to help out anyone I can. Its also my second time going through and i thought about going all out evil this time, but its so hard to stick with the plan. I really hated killing Jolee and Juani (this was something i tried in a save during my first time around). I mean they were nice people, but i killed them anyway. Then there was mission (i like her a lot, but not as much as Bastila) and then Zaalbar turned on me! It was a massive dilemma! All i was left with were two dumb droids, a mandalorian freak and a really cruel Bastila...not my type at all. So yeah...that was my moral dilemma.

AVENGER · Post by **AVENGER** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:01 pm

I've felt that way too. The first time I played light side and everything was fine then the 2nd time I played I played dark side and when I did really dark things I actually felt bad like I was actually doing something bad. lol. I felt kind of pathetic because it's only a game but since you talk so much in it and your choosing your destiny its almost like you are the person in a way. Anyways that kind of sounded screwy lol but hey oh well its fun to be dark anyways you always have mass amounts of credits if you do all out dark side and I liked having all those cool dark side equipments

HiRo11er · Post by **HiRo11er** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:25 pm

Then there was mission (i like her a lot, but not as much as Bastila) and then Zaalbar turned on me!

I still haven't been able to kill Mission... I don't even know how?! I probably won't seeing as how I don't need any more DS points and I think she's kinda cute, but it'll still be fun.

The three quests that I think have been the most morally questionable if you go down the dark side has to be the Matale/sandra-something feud, kicking poor little Sasha off the Ebon Hawk, and killing Zalbaar's dad... Such good people, yet no room for them in my game!

By the way, someone said in a thread that it was easier to be light than dark. I find that to be totally untrue, as I've been black as night since Taris & I just keep getting DS points. All you gotta do is make sure you don't help out anyone in need. If you actually do something good for someone, just make sure you nag them about a reward & you'll avoid that nasty LS stuff...

jeremiah · Post by **jeremiah** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:10 pm

I played the first game dark and I was really ticked off that I had to take DS Bastila if you chose to become Sith Lord since you had no way to decide her feats and powers. She didn't have Force Immunity for crying out loud (sure as a sentinel she is immune to stun/fear/paralyzation but not drain life/force lightning/choke which got her hurt a lot in the Star Forge). She also wound up feats that I would probably never have picked for her.

Maybe next time I play DS I will decide to ditch becoming Sith Lord if there was a way to do so without gaining LS points. Heck, may even try to redeem Bastila if there was a way to do so without gaining LS points and still getting Darth Revan robes. That way, I can go in with any combo of Jolee/HK/Canderous. RPG wise, a DS character can always say been there, done that. Time to do something else ho hum.

AVENGER · Post by **AVENGER** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:11 pm

Originally posted by HiRo11er
By the way, someone said in a thread that it was easier to be light than dark. I find that to be totally untrue.

I totally agree with you HiRo11er it isn't easier at all if you go lightside and you really want to be good it takes a lot longer to do quests because you're doing the lightside way plus it's a lot harder to get LS points then DS points because you can go up to like a hunter in the hunting lodge at tatooine and be like give me your money or I'll kill ya and you'll get DS points its very simple, but with LS points you usually have to go out of your way to get them. Either way though usually by the beginning of your 3rd Star Forge Planet and you've gone all out LS or DS you'll be at the hundred percent on whichever you went all out on.

HiRo11er · Post by **HiRo11er** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:44 pm

you can go up to like a hunter in the hunting lodge at tatooine and be like give me your money or I'll kill ya

Very good point, & hilarious too!

I wonder how many random waitresses, hunters, citizens and other random lackeys I've chopped down for no reason just to get some DS...

Also, it's effective in getting enough $$$ to buy some of the more expensive items in the game.

AVENGER · Post by **AVENGER** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:44 pm

Also if you really want to force some major decisions on people you got to have that dominate mind!

hahaha make em do whatever you want like the pig guys at the hunting lodge on tatooine if you force persuade them in the dune sea to not attack you and go away. Then you can come back after killing the Krayt Dragon and be like Run away screaming little piggies! lol it's hilarious! Also it's fun to mess around with people like on Korriban their are Prospective Sith's outside of the entrance to the Sith Academy and you go up to the first one after talking to Mekel about them and lie saying your new test is to go attack the sith guard and then he's like oh good now I can prove myself and he does it!lol, Ya it's a lot of fun being dark.

Lord Nyax · Post by **Lord Nyax** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:32 pm

Moral Dillema

Well, I don't know about you guys, but I figure that you should just do what you think you really would do in the given situation. It was kind of scary seeing how evil I truly was for the first time. However, the most affecting quest for me was forcing that old widow on Tattoine to give me her dead husbands wraid skull plate and then ripping her off. Ohhh, when she tells you to burn in hell or whatever, she looks just as evel as you do.

Lord Nyax · Post by **Lord Nyax** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:37 pm

Being a dark lord but not a sith one?

I'm not sure, but I think that you automatically go to whatever extreme you choose with Bastilla. I remember I was playing a dark PC but stupidly chose to help the enslaved Wookies, so I turned out to be about middle after that. When I went to the Strange Planet, I did all I could to be evil, but feared I might have to take on Malak without Dark Mastery, but I found that when I joined evil Bastilla, I got Dark Mastery again. I don't know, maybe you just get a bunch of dark points, or maybe you go all the way to mastery, but I'm not sure if it is possible to try to be dark and save Bastilla too.

AVENGER · Post by **AVENGER** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:37 pm

Re: Moral Dillema

Originally posted by Lord Nyax
I figure that you should just do what you think you really would do in the given situation.

Ya that's true. That's what I did my first game and I ended up as light side. I hated going against what I would really do when I went dark side it really ticked me off so I haven't been DS since then, but I admit sometimes I did laugh at some of the evil things I did. lol. Just not the truly evil stuff.

Snowtrooper · Post by **Snowtrooper** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:58 pm

well u see, i was interested in seeing the DS story ending but, i could not take killing all those people. I just broke up (pathetic me) so i restarted from Kashyyk and decided to go LS all the way becoz i really hated killing Zaalbar's dad.

however, i'd have no moral dilemmas in slashing down hordes of sith.

the worst thing i prolly did in the whole game was threatening Janice Nall.