Valygar

Coot · Post by **Coot** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:18 pm

You already have five members, two of which are multiclass... that means your party won't lvl very fast. You could leave your party the way it is. Your party is pretty powerful already. One less partymember will make the rest lvl up a bit quicker and you'll have access to higher lvl spells a bit sooner.

Incertainty · Post by **Incertainty** » Thu May 20, 2004 3:46 pm

@ Coot: You do have a good point. The quicker levelling would be immensely usefull, especially as, in my last game, I got completely smashed by Bodhi's brethren once I'd allied myself with the Shadow Thieves... However, a party with less than the maximum number of party members just isn't my thing. At the moment, I'm thinking it will either be Haer'Dalis or Jan. Jan would be an extremely powerfull addition as an extra mage, and his interaction with Minsc, well, you probably know what I'm talking about. What speaks the most in Haer'Dalis' favor would simply be the fact that there's no one like him, or in other words, that he's a thiefling. As for the rest, I'm pretty indifferent to him.

VonDondu · Post by **VonDondu** » Thu May 20, 2004 11:01 pm

Originally posted by Thrain
i personally would take Mazzy over Valygar. the strength thing won't be an issue once you've got those wonderful ogre gloves from the sphere.

I agree. Once you enhance Mazzy's strength (which can even be done with her innate ability to cast the Strength spell), she is a...well, she's a single-class Fighter with decent strength. I can't say enough good things about single-class Fighters with decent strength. If you can't bash some heads with one of those (Mazzy, for instance), then BG2 probably isn't the right game for you.

Coot · Post by **Coot** » Fri May 21, 2004 3:06 am

Well, Haer'Dalis is far from useless. I know people complain about him being weak but he's not. I use his magical abilities to enhance his defences (stoneskin, blur). He's a Blade and his spin abilities are just fine. And he comes with two powerful short swords as well. Sure, he's not all powerful, but who wants Kal-El in his party?

I also agree strongly with Von Dondu. It took me three games, then I finally decided to give Mazzy a try. She was my only fighter but she did very very well. I'm a real fan of this short paladin wannabe.

lompo · Post by **lompo** » Fri May 21, 2004 4:49 am

Originally posted by Incertainty
@ Coot: You do have a good point. The quicker levelling would be immensely usefull, especially as, in my last game, I got completely smashed by Bodhi's brethren once I'd allied myself with the Shadow Thieves... However, a party with less than the maximum number of party members just isn't my thing. At the moment, I'm thinking it will either be Haer'Dalis or Jan. Jan would be an extremely powerfull addition as an extra mage, and his interaction with Minsc, well, you probably know what I'm talking about. What speaks the most in Haer'Dalis' favor would simply be the fact that there's no one like him, or in other words, that he's a thiefling. As for the rest, I'm pretty indifferent to him.

I would drop Joshimo and take Jan, so you will have a 5 member party till you save Imoen (thus helping the levelling up of the multiclasses), and you'll end up with two mage over your PC.
And definetly Viconia is not a fighter!!!

Incertainty · Post by **Incertainty** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:29 am

Perhaps, but this could be made up for through the 200k exp you get through Yoshimo's betrayal, no?

VonDondu · Post by **VonDondu** » Fri May 21, 2004 6:39 am

Originally posted by UserUnfriendly
I keep selling his body...is that bad of me???

Well, it's worse if you kill him.

Kaitsuburi · Post by **Kaitsuburi** » Fri May 21, 2004 7:38 am

Originally posted by UserUnfriendly
I keep selling his body...is that bad of me???

Forgive my ignorant curiosity, but how much is he worth

-kaitsuburi

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Fri May 21, 2004 10:58 am

Originally posted by Kaitsuburi
Forgive my ignorant curiosity, but how much is he worth

-kaitsuburi

one ring of ram...

Thrain · Post by **Thrain** » Fri May 21, 2004 11:01 am

why not jsut pick Yoshi up before you leave. then he isnt an exp drain and you gets your 200k

Vicsun · Post by **Vicsun** » Fri May 21, 2004 1:55 pm

Originally posted by Thrain
why not jsut pick Yoshi up before you leave. then he isnt an exp drain and you gets your 200k

Well, roleplaying-wise, that makes next to no sense.

Kaitsuburi · Post by **Kaitsuburi** » Fri May 21, 2004 9:27 pm

Originally posted by UserUnfriendly
one ring of ram...

Ahhhh! Selling him there! I see; I was thinking, selling him to a peddling thief storekeep, then stealing him and selling him again

-kaitsuburi

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sat May 22, 2004 3:51 am

Originally posted by Kaitsuburi
Ahhhh! Selling him there! I see; I was thinking, selling him to a peddling thief storekeep, then stealing him and selling him again

-kaitsuburi

well, i did sell his body to tolgarious after i had the poor git open the planar sphere...

got 3 rings out of the deal...

Thrain · Post by **Thrain** » Sat May 22, 2004 5:20 am

Originally posted by Vicsun
Well, roleplaying-wise, that makes next to no sense.

depends on how you view it. remember, Yoshimo is meant to be betraying you and keeping an eye on you for Irenicus (pointing you in the right direction and such).

For example:
Thrain: ok kiddies, time to go. aran has the ship waiting
Aerie: yay! a boat!
our interpid adventurers arrive at the docks to see aran linvail talking with a old aquaintance
Thrain: Yoshimo??
Yoshimo: ah my friends. i heard from my contqacts in the shadow theives you were leaving our fair shores. surely not?
Thrain: yeah, we're going to save the little redheaded one
Yoshimo: then perhaps you are in need of my assitance. i'm sure all manner of foreign moutraps await our toes over the water.
Thrain: why the heck not, i could do with someone to tease the mighty sir Ano now gnome-boy bit the dust.

etc. etc. etc.

Vicsun · Post by **Vicsun** » Sat May 22, 2004 10:56 am

Originally posted by Thrain
depends on how you view it. remember, Yoshimo is meant to be betraying you and keeping an eye on you for Irenicus (pointing you in the right direction and such).

For example:
Thrain: ok kiddies, time to go. aran has the ship waiting
Aerie: yay! a boat!
our interpid adventurers arrive at the docks to see aran linvail talking with a old aquaintance
Thrain: Yoshimo??
Yoshimo: ah my friends. i heard from my contqacts in the shadow theives you were leaving our fair shores. surely not?
Thrain: yeah, we're going to save the little redheaded one
Yoshimo: then perhaps you are in need of my assitance. i'm sure all manner of foreign moutraps await our toes over the water.
Thrain: why the heck not, i could do with someone to tease the mighty sir Ano now gnome-boy bit the dust.

etc. etc. etc.

It's a stretch