Better Living Through Chemistry

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Fri May 28, 2004 12:00 am

I was having fun with alchemy and I wondered if anyone else had some favourite recipe combinations, I love creating multi property potions.

This is one that is much fun when dealing with magic users:

Mage's Woe

* one part void salts
*one part shalk resin
*one part golden sedge flowers
*vampire dust

Resulting Properties: fortify strength, fortify health, spell absorption

Aaron Kasra · Post by **Aaron Kasra** » Fri May 28, 2004 7:07 am

I'll be back to this thread after I've had a chance to go home and make some recipes.

I make a bunch that restore and/or fortify fatigue, health and magicka; one that blocks lightning and resists shock.

I've got a bunch with multiple effects that are more for using one effect at a time.

Have you seen any "grandmaster" alchemy tools anywhere? I just bought a grandmaster mortar and pestle in balmora and figure their must be grandmaster models of the other stuff somewhere.

beornica · Post by **beornica** » Fri May 28, 2004 8:32 am

I'm not sure if I got mine at the Gro-Bagrat plantation or not... basically it's this skooma factory that's on the path north of Vivec. In the basement there's tons of skooma and I *think* grandmasters items? Shoot, I could be completely wrong, who knows. If that doesn't work, scout around in Sadrith Mora, especially if you've got good sneak.

Fuwex · Post by **Fuwex** » Fri May 28, 2004 8:57 am

If you got Tribunal, you can buy the full Grandmaster set in the Magic Shop in the Great Bazaar, Mournhold. Also, I think that the master trainer for alchemy sells it? I don't know.

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Fri May 28, 2004 8:59 am

I found my various components in different dungeon hops but I can't recall where.

Aaron Kasra · Post by **Aaron Kasra** » Fri May 28, 2004 11:03 am

Here's one a my fave's for when I'm in over my head against a lightning-throwing opponents:

Crab meat - corkbulb root - scrap metal - saltrice
Provides lightning shield, resist shock, restore fatigue, restore health

Mixing
raw glass or sload soap
comberry
frost salts
fire petal or black anther
Provides Fire shield, resist fire, restore magika and (the downside) drain speed

Jofus · Post by **Jofus** » Fri May 28, 2004 8:40 pm

In regards to the Grandmaster Alchemy tools there is a full set at Valenvaryon (sp?) stronghold in the propylon chamber. Also the woman there can train you to 100 in alchemy.

werebeargoddess · Post by **werebeargoddess** » Fri May 28, 2004 8:52 pm

Originally posted by Aaron Kasra
I just bought a grandmaster mortar and pestle in balmora and figure their must be grandmaster models of the other stuff somewhere.

Where in Balmora did you get yours? Not that I would buy it, because I already have one. I was just curious, because I also found one, but to get it, you would have to somehow steal it from Nelcarya of White Haven's house.

Aqua-chan · Post by **Aqua-chan** » Sat May 29, 2004 9:24 am

Originally posted by werebeargoddess
Where in Balmora did you get yours? Not that I would buy it, because I already have one. I was just curious, because I also found one, but to get it, you would have to somehow steal it from Nelcarya of White Haven's house.

You actually can buy it from her.

pepsi · Post by **pepsi** » Sat May 29, 2004 10:52 am

Originally posted by Aqua-chan
You actually can buy it from her.

heh, buying.

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Sat May 29, 2004 11:29 am

Okay, now that everyone knows where to obtain their equipment, let's brew some potions and perhaps share the recipes

i4v02v95i5p09k9 · Post by **i4v02v95i5p09k9** » Sat May 29, 2004 11:48 am

If you want some cheese, combine

Ash Yam
Netch Leather

You get fortify intelligence. Yes its common and easy formula, but perhaps someone somewhere someplace didnt know about it, and now they do

beornica · Post by **beornica** » Sat May 29, 2004 1:08 pm

Juice of the Witch Hunter:
bloat
wickwheat
fire petal
void salts

Spell absorption and fortify willpower. Don't bother if you're not very good at alchemy, but this is an awesome mix if you're really skilled.

Aaron Kasra · Post by **Aaron Kasra** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:25 am

Originally posted by Aqua-chan
You actually can buy it from her.

What Aqua-chan said. I never stole from her in the first place; I bought the diamond the Thieves Guild wanted.

I left my notes home but tomorrow I will be back sharing some of the multi-effect potions I've been coming up with.

Oh! and that trick of downing a "Fortify Intelligence" before taking up the mortar and pestle really works. I have potions with durations of more than three minutes, they don't weigh a thing. Some of you old hands may be doing better, but this is the best I've done with potion-brewing so far.

owlsight · Post by **owlsight** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 11:56 am

Sort of off topic. Question about the alchemy skill. I've gotten my character trained in alchemy up to a skill of 18, but she still fails at all the potions she makes. At what skill level do you start to make successful potions? Does intelligence count towards the skill as well? She's pretty dumb, with an intelligence of 45. Does she need to be smarter as well?

fable · Post by **fable** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 12:06 pm

Intelligence does help, but your alchemy skill is low. Drink Fortify Intelligence potions, and make simple alchemical potions with cheap ingredients. That should help develop your alchemy skill. I would say you'll see a significant difference somewhere around 30 or so.

Fuwex · Post by **Fuwex** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 12:08 pm

Intelligence helps. Make a few potions of Fortify Intelligence by combining Ash Yam and Bloat (Well, you can use Ash Yam and Netch Leather or Netch Leather and Bloat whatever, but my favorite is Ash Yam'n Bloat.

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After drinking the potions, try make some new potions, you should see, if you have raised your intelligence enough, that you will success more often. Now, go buy lots of ingredients to buy potions, and start making potions to get Alchemy skill.

Aaron Kasra · Post by **Aaron Kasra** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 12:15 pm

Originally posted by owlsight
Sort of off topic. Question about the alchemy skill. I've gotten my character trained in alchemy up to a skill of 18, but she still fails at all the potions she makes. At what skill level do you start to make successful potions? Does intelligence count towards the skill as well? She's pretty dumb, with an intelligence of 45. Does she need to be smarter as well?

Yeah. I didn't start making potions til I was up around level 40 cuz your level is roughly your percentage chance of successfully making the spell (I trained a lot under that Kajiit in the mage's guild you work for, and a few other kind alchemists around Balmora)

The real successes in potion making seem to me to come at higher levels. Your potions start coming out better than the stuff you can buy, and they weigh a lot less. I can carry dozens of potions around cuz they 'most all weigh 0.0!

Intelligence helps. If you down a potion to fortify your intelligence right before you start mixing potions, it'll help make them better.

There's some constant effect fortify intelligence ring (Mentor's Ring?) I wear when I'm brewing too.

If you decide not to pursue alchemy, don't feel you've wasted 18 levels. At level 15 you know the first effect of a reagent, which is something you can benefit from just by eating the herb or skin or whatever. There's a mushroom you can eat to breathe underwater, marshmarrow (or whatever) restores health; I'm sure there's lots of other reagents that are useful right off the vine.

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 12:51 pm

I'm sure there's lots of other reagents that are useful right off the vine.

Well in this case I think it would be more apt to say 'right off the daedra' ... but you can eat daedra hearts "raw" to restore magicka. They can also decrease your agility level but not by too much. Recently I was at a point where I could not rest and my magicka was gone, but I needed to mark my location. I was dreading the thought of having to trudge all the way back to the ruin I was in when I remembered the nice tasty daedra hearts in my 'backpack'

Jofus · Post by **Jofus** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:29 pm

Racer Plumes
Trama Root
Moon Sugar
Shalk Resin/Kagouti Hide

Levitate with fortify speed. I use this one when I want to haul buns

BTW what is the advantage of fortifying willpower?