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I am bumping this to boast about getting a gMail account :D

Now, for those of you who don't know, it hasn't gone public yet and the only way to get your hands on an account is to get an invitation from someone who already has an account. I happen to have a couple of invitations laying around, and I'm willing to give them away. Reply here saying why you want an account or pm me and you may find yourself using gMail ;)
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Well - "gMail" is hardly anything special anymore. (or have ever been, if looking logical at the 1GB storage space)
I've seen similar israelic service called "Walla" being developed (don't know its current status) and also a service based in India, that offers the same amount of space, and allow bigger files to be send via e-mails. (which I can't find the name of currently)

Also - Hotmail seems to be increasing the size of allowable e-mails as well as upping storage space to 250MB, and the paying customers of Hotmail can get 2 GB space (should be in effect in july).
And "SpyMac.com" is already running with (amongst other things) 1 GB e-mail storage space.


I'd never privately want to use such online services though, for several reasons. :cool:
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I'll take an invite definitly...
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@Xan: I have heard nothing about hotmail increasing their storage space, which is strange considering my primary email account is hotmail. Last I heard from them, which was about a week ago, they were advertising a 'premium service' which costs ~300DKK yearly (I'm unsure, and I've deleted the email) and allows me to keep a 10MB inbox. As far as I know, it was Yahoo that offered 2GB space to subscribers, but I might be wrong.

I also have a spymac account, and while the 250MB ftp space is great, I've not been overly impressed with their email service. The graphics are pretty to look at but not what I'd call functional, and finding old emails is a hassle.

@Thug: check your PMs

@Everyone else: Two invitations left ;)
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[QUOTE=Vicsun]@Xan: I have heard nothing about hotmail increasing their storage space, which is strange considering my primary email account is hotmail. Last I heard from them, which was about a week ago, they were advertising a 'premium service' which costs ~300DKK yearly (I'm unsure, and I've deleted the email) and allows me to keep a 10MB inbox. As far as I know, it was Yahoo that offered 2GB space to subscribers, but I might be wrong.
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I only have a danish link to it http://www.computerworld.dk/default.asp ... leID=24216, but that shouldn't matter much to you :D

I wouldn't be surprised if Yahoo has increased their storage also.
Yet another reason I am not "awed" by gmail (but then again - I've never been :D )
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[QUOTE=Xandax]I only have a danish link to it http://www.computerworld.dk/default.asp ... leID=24216, but that shouldn't matter much to you :D

I wouldn't be surprised if Yahoo has increased their storage also.
Yet another reason I am not "awed" by gmail (but then again - I've never been :D )[/QUOTE]

But it's not only the 1GB :) Finding mail is easier as google have implemented their search technology to automatically organize and find messages, as well as grouping emails and replies as 'conversations' (very useful IMO), providing a pretty convinient labeling structure, and having a more powerful filtering system (more powerful than hotmail's at least). I haven't got any experience with their spam filters yet, but I guess the fact that I havn't received any spam yet is a good indicator.

Now of course, it's just another webmail service, and should naturally be viewed as such. Apart from being the first to announce 1GB inboxes, it's nothing revolutionary but it's by far the most convinient web-mail I've used. It's probably going to be my primary secondary mail account :D
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Hi there,

My primary account is a yahoo account (non-paying) and they've bumped me up to 100mb storage and increased my available message size to 10mb (I think, not sure on that one but it is a signifigant increase!) Competition is always good news!
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My only real question is who needs 1GB of stored e-mail? :o
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[QUOTE=Vicsun]<snip>
Now of course, it's just another webmail service, and should naturally be viewed as such. Apart from being the first to announce 1GB inboxes, it's nothing revolutionary but it's by far the most convinient web-mail I've used. It's probably going to be my primary secondary mail account :D [/QUOTE]

But there is a big difference between being first to announce and being first to implement.
I can announce a 1000 GB storage space right now ... ;)

I see to many safty risks and other kinds of problems connected to web-mail, for me to want to use it as primary or even seconday account. For instance - others (not me though) have expressed a concern regarding the scanning of e-mails in connection with direct marketing.

Also - I have no problems finding my e-mails, and I do recive quite a significant number each day according to my spamfilter :D
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[QUOTE=Aegis]My only real question is who needs 1GB of stored e-mail? :o [/QUOTE]

Not that many, but many wants it nevertheless, if we look at the number of services providing increasingly large storing space for e-mails.
"Geek"/"brag" value or what not :D
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I rather have 1 gb than 2 mb, my hotmail mail is full very quickly and it cant hold much mails with attatchments, but it does't mean I need 1 gb, that's a bit over the top.
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[QUOTE=Aegis]My only real question is who needs 1GB of stored e-mail? :o [/QUOTE]
I've never found the ordinary 4MB enough and I guess that increasing the storage in small steps just isn't as practical as getting the public's attention with the announcement of 1GB inboxes ;)

[quote="Xandax] But there is a big difference between being first to announce and being first to implement.
I can announce a 1000 GB storage space right now ...

I see to many safty risks and other kinds of problems connected to web-mail"]
In this case, I do believe if google didn't announce a 1GB mail service, no one else would have increased their allowence. I know that both spymac and yahoo announced they will be increasing the size of allowed mail in a direct response to gMail.
I, personally, don't have a problem with my emails being scanned and even welcome ads which might actually interest me. Since I've long ago switched to webmail because of the increased mobility it offers, gMail is just an improved hotmail for me. If I wanted to send a supar secrat messagetm I probably won't be using an email in the first place.
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[QUOTE=Aegis]My only real question is who needs 1GB of stored e-mail? :o [/QUOTE]

My thoughts exactly. :cool:
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[QUOTE=Vicsun]I've never found the ordinary 4MB enough and I guess that increasing the storage in small steps just isn't as practical as getting the public's attention with the announcement of 1GB inboxes ;)


In this case, I do believe if google didn't announce a 1GB mail service, no one else would have increased their allowence. I know that both spymac and yahoo announced they will be increasing the size of allowed mail in a direct response to gMail.
I, personally, don't have a problem with my emails being scanned and even welcome ads which might actually interest me. Since I've long ago switched to webmail because of the increased mobility it offers, gMail is just an improved hotmail for me. If I wanted to send a supar secrat messagetm I probably won't be using an email in the first place.[/QUOTE]

Well - as I mentioned sometime similar earlier - the 1 GB limit is just for show.
Because there is a limit on size of files and whatnot, it will take a long for any user to even get near the 1 GB limit (and my bet is if they recive 100 x 10MB files fast, their account will be investigated). So basically - the way it would works is that everybody still gets the 10 MB at start, but gets their free space listed at 1GB. Then when they fill up say 5 MB, they get 10 more MB added to their space ...

As I see it - 1 GB storage space is still a gimick, it might proove usefull to some, but the majority have no need of it :)

As for the privacy issue, Google sure does a lot out of telling that it is the same as all the other web-mail based services ... almost the same anyways. :)

But I know many use webmail, and I understand some of the reasons, but it still just seems like a gimick, and it is nothing that can interest me much, because of that.
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1 Gig email sounds awsome to me, especially the web mail. I mean I could use it as a fileserver for simple things like winzip etc. Store the small prog's in my inbox... go to machine log onto web dload etc. Sure one could argue to just go to the webpage or burn a cd but this just seems like another ability. Also if another person had a gmail account I could forward my software...

Having a gig of webspace for free is very usefull just think outside of your joke emails.
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[QUOTE=RandomThug]1 Gig email sounds awsome to me, especially the web mail. I mean I could use it as a fileserver for simple things like winzip etc. Store the small prog's in my inbox... go to machine log onto web dload etc. Sure one could argue to just go to the webpage or burn a cd but this just seems like another ability. Also if another person had a gmail account I could forward my software...

Having a gig of webspace for free is very usefull just think outside of your joke emails.[/QUOTE]

Well- the fun thing is that there is (most likely, haven't re-read the agreements much lately) a limit to the size of the e-mails.
It is not fun to use a 1GB email account as fileserver if you need to split all the programs up into 2mb (or 5 or 10 depending on what size they allow) chunks :D
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Google are flooding me with invitations - I seem to be getting six new ones every week or so. I currently have 12 invitations to give away and if anyone is interested say so.


Recap of why gMail replaced hotmail as my primary account:

1GB of storage space - hotmail promised 250MB a while ago, but my account still has a measly 2MB of space. Two megabytes (and an attatchment cap of what? 500K?) means I can't even send a decent quality picture, let alone something larger. I realize there are other services out there who also provice 1GB of storage, but I've tried all of them and they are either extremely unstable and clunky or have a *horrid* interface.

A fast interface - unlike Hotmail (and to a much greater extent Spymac), gMail uses a sleek javascript-based interface, making it a lot faster to browse through than pretty much every other webmail I've ever used (and I've used more than a few... I probably have more than 10 webmail accounts scattered across the web)

Bells&whistles - bells 'n' whistles usually implies unnecessary or superflous functions, and while that's how I initially viewed most of them, I now feel handicapped whenever I have to use my hotmail account because I've started seeing the usage of labels, grouping mails into conversations, an ability to search all my emails as essential functions.

Free Forwarding of Emails - granted all webmail services provide this, but it's never free. I'm pretty sure google will make it a payed service as well after gMail goes public, but for now it's one of the best things in the universe. I can use my vicsun@gmail address publicly without having to disclose my real name to anyone. And then I just tell it to forward all the emails to real.name@gmail.com so I don't have to check both accounts or install two notifiers... which brings me to my next point.

gMail Notifier - a small program you can install that sits in your system tray and informs you if you have any new e-mails. Kind of like msnMessenger does with hotmail. Besides msn/hotmail I don't know of any other webmail service that offers anything similar.


Before anyone explains how ordinary mail already has all of those features and has had them for ages and thus ruins my day *cough*Xandax*cough* I'd like to say that if you're not a fan of web-mail then gMail probably isn't for you. But if you, like me, need to access your mail and the files stored on it from several different places, gMail is currently the best solution.

/pockets check from google

So, in conclusion, if anyone wants an invitation, pm me with your email and you'll receive one ;)
Vicsun, I certainly agree with your assertion that you are an unpleasant person. ~Chanak

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[QUOTE=Vicsun]<snip>
Before anyone explains how ordinary mail already has all of those features and has had them for ages and thus ruins my day *cough*Xandax*cough* I'd like to say that if you're not a fan of web-mail then gMail probably isn't for you. But if you, like me, need to access your mail and the files stored on it from several different places, gMail is currently the best solution.
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I have access to and uses my own private mail account associated with my webdomain from anywhere as well - cause it also has a webmail interface :p
:D (Hope that didn't ruin your day .... to much :D )

But anyways - If you have that many accounts "to give away", then hit me with one please, so I can check it out as well :)
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@Vicsun,
If you have a spare account, I'd be much obliged if you could send one my way as well, cheers ;)
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Hey Viscun....
I would be much obliged (and would worship you forever :D ) if i could use one of your invitations? Thanks In Advance

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