Dragon Eggs

CBdragon1 · Post by **CBdragon1** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:56 am

I am trying to get the Dragon Eggs out of the Drow treasure room and replace them with the fakes. I have tried invisibility potions combined with a cloak of non-detection and improved invisibility spells. Every time I open the door the gaurds notice and attack! What is the strategy to get around them and the golems in the room?

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:25 am

I've never manged the stealth route myself, and I've played through the game numerous times. However, I have found that if you quickly dispatch the gaurds just outside the door once they turn hostile, enter the room, and immediately close the door behind you it is usually possible to grab the eggs and fight the golems with nobody being any the wiser.

If somebody has found a way to successfully complete this quest unseen, I'd like to hear about it as well

Shadrach · Post by **Shadrach** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:34 am

There's a patch floating around that fixes this, either one of the official patches or one of the ones on Baldurdash. The problem is that drow can see invisible creatures, just like liches and dragons can. This, of course, makes stealth impossible, and it's much easier just to kill the guards before you enter the room. Note that the golems *will* go hostile no matter what, but if you go invisible with a potion or item you can leave the room without any trouble.

The patch for this removes the "Egg Guard" NPC's immunity to invisible creatures, but the threshold for killing them without alerting all of the drow is around 30 seconds or so, so killing them and getting away with it really shouldn't be a problem. Besides, they've got nice halberds and you should kill them anyway, just for kicks. Don't feel bad; drow are mean.

Ekental · Post by **Ekental** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:25 pm

err... I managed to sneak past the gaurds and not fight the golems using Staff of Magi, going in, replacing the eggs, and then turning invis, and runnning out. The problem is that the last two times I've gone through the games the guards always seem to shout out, so I've always mauled the outside guards and then sneaked past the golems, maybe the ToB patch made it so the guards can see invis?

Bloodstalker · Post by **Bloodstalker** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:34 pm

I think a few people have suggested using Santuary to go unoticed. Personally, I just kill the guards. I don't like preists, so I rarely have that option myself.

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:06 pm

[QUOTE=Bloodstalker]I think a few people have suggested using Santuary to go unoticed. Personally, I just kill the guards. I don't like preists, so I rarely have that option myself.[/QUOTE]

I've always used Sanctuary. Works perfectly, guards go hostile but have nothing to attack, golems can't see, and its not dispelled when you perform actions (like opening doors).

hobitfromhell · Post by **hobitfromhell** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:47 pm

I went up with staff of the magi, went inbetween the two egg guards, and cast sunfire. Killed them both and they didn't have time to call out or anything.

Then open the door, re-equip staff, and walk past golems, open container then pause, grap/replace eggs, re-equip, unpause, go out and close the door.

Pretty simple actually.

GNGSpam · Post by **GNGSpam** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:01 pm

A curosity question. I hadn't played BG2 in a year or so, but the past few days i've been replaying it. Anyways, before I even started a game, I installed a number of fixes (no mods or anything yet) just fixes from Weidu and Baldurdash. Anyways weren't giving the demon the eggs after Phaere and the Matron Mother get killed a possibility once upon a time? I just passed that part and had only 2 options both not giving them to him.

Anyways, if there was once an option to give them to him, does anyone know what happened? Amazingly enough in all the times I played through the game, I never once tried that. Of course this could be because im crazy and that never was an option, but since im such a sick stickler for non-cheese, non-powergame, rp'ing, I wouldn't have given them to him anyways. Just curious

PS - If there isnt an option, there should be. You ought to be able to give the Demon the eggs and enlist his aid in killing the Silver Dragon. Seems pretty logical right? A good option for evil parties.

glenfar · Post by **glenfar** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:37 pm

[QUOTE=GNGSpam]A good option for evil parties.[/QUOTE]

Exactly

Your main character has to be evil in order to get this option. If your good or even neutral, you simply don't get the dialogue choice.

Shadrach · Post by **Shadrach** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:12 pm

[QUOTE=glenfar]Your main character has to be evil in order to get this option. If your good or even neutral, you simply don't get the dialogue choice.[/QUOTE]
That, in my opinion, is one of the major drawbacks of the game. Neutral characters can't be evil sometimes? Doesn't make any sense at all... Character's intentions, not their actions, define their alignment. That's how paladins get away with crusading against evil monsters (read: genocide) and are still LG.

GNGSpam · Post by **GNGSpam** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:43 pm

[QUOTE=Shadrach]That, in my opinion, is one of the major drawbacks of the game. Neutral characters can't be evil sometimes? Doesn't make any sense at all... Character's intentions, not their actions, define their alignment. That's how paladins get away with crusading against evil monsters (read: genocide) and are still LG.[/QUOTE]

Well, giving a silver dragons eggs to a Demon Lord is pretty outragously evil. I can't see even a neutral player ever having a reason to do such a thing. And since neutral alignment players always do something for a reason (beyond "I want to do good" or "I want to do bad") I can see that not being an option. In fact, even neutral evil and lawful evil characters I would think would be hesistant to do this since the gain is rather minimal and the risk rather high.

Chaotic evil is the only option for this to be rational since Chaotic evil tend to be malicious for malice's sake.

But none of this answers my real question, if you give the eggs to the demon, what happens?

Koveras · Post by **Koveras** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:28 pm

if you give the demon the real eggs, he gives you some magical items... (forget what), you can also fight him, kinda impossible tho

also i wish the evil route couldve included a match between the dragon and the demon, heh to see the entire city collapse as two beasts battle...

glenfar · Post by **glenfar** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:08 am

[QUOTE=GNGSpam]if you give the eggs to the demon, what happens?[/QUOTE]

He asks you what you want, and you have a few choices to choose from. As Koveras mentioned, you can get a magic item (best choice) - a +4 Halberd called Blackmist. Other than that, he can 'escort' you out of the city (he kills all drow along the way), but you have to fight your own way out of the temple. The other choices (things like mega-wealth, mega-power) I found ended in instant death ... I don't know if it's actually possible to fight him.