shapeshifter question (semi-spoiler)

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:39 am

I'm new to using the shapeshifter class. I've picked up Cernd again to go through the druid grove quests but this time I want to keep him. My question is in regards to inventory and having Cernd shapeshift to a werewolf. Do any items equipped possessing abilities retain those abilities when shapeshifting? Example: I want to get the gloves of crushing in the Sahugin city. they yield +4 to hit and damage. When Cernd is wearing these, will he get those bonuses while in werewolf form? thanks

FireLighter · Post by **FireLighter** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:42 pm

Im pretty sure he does but I could be wrong... never played a shapeshifter and never paid any attention to cernd when he transforms.

Thrain · Post by **Thrain** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:43 pm

i'm not sure he does...i could be wrong, but the shapeshifting thing makes anything on the thing shapeshifted meld into the new form, thereby losing it's abilities. i think.....

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:54 pm

that makes sense thrain, and I believe that's what happens. Someone will come along and confirm or deny.

GNGSpam · Post by **GNGSpam** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:22 pm

Well, I will say this. If they DO add +4 to his shapeshift form, I may have to give the tree-hugger another look. That ought to make him pretty darn powerful.

Shadrach · Post by **Shadrach** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:47 pm

Even if their bonuses go into effect, Cernd won't get them when he's shapeshifted.

Shapeshifting replaces your current weapon with the appropriate animal's attack method, in the form of a temporary but non-removable weapon, in Cernd's case, claws. Since the Gauntlets only affect "hand-to-hand," or several different "Fist" items, they won't affect his claws, sadly.

I suppose it makes sense, though, because he's not actually punching anyone, more like shredding.

I like Cernd, even if he is kinda whiny. He does remarkably well when in Greater Werewolf form, especially with that natural regeneration of his.

estaze · Post by **estaze** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:01 pm

imo, the shapeshifter kit sux, but i've installed the mod, where you can choose to make the shapeshifter kit better. Or more balanced, you may call it. But i dont seem to really get these new abilities? My MR is still locked at 50%, and i cant can spells while in Greater Werewolf form etc.
Anybody knows what wrong?

Thrain · Post by **Thrain** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:22 am

there are two different rebalancing mods for the shapshifter kit. one is weimars and included in ease-of-use, the other is in refinements. i'm currently using the refinements version

estaze · Post by **estaze** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:00 am

Could the fact, that i have both installed, be the reason why it still doesn't work right?

Mr.Waesel · Post by **Mr.Waesel** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:33 pm

The EoU version is totally unbalanced. I might as well solo with Jaheira, since she kills 4 tactics pit fiends in a row without taking any noticeable damage, at level 13.

EDIT: I SK'ed JAheira to a shapeshifter, but Cernd works as well.