Newbie Tips

Psi_RedEye22 · Post by **Psi_RedEye22** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:19 am

Well, I promised I'd put my money-making guide to a new character up, and I will. It's actually rather simple.

1. Create your character. Some form of mercantile helps.

2. Look to your right on a bookcase, steal the limeware platter, and drop it before the guard grabs you. He'll let you off the hook because you're a noob. Take platter off groud. It's yours now, and by far the most expensive item you can trade in Seyda Neen.

3. Close the next door behind you, and completely clear out this room. steal everything from the bread in the basket to the torches on the wall down below, all the ingredients, and everything in between.

4. Get the Engraved ring in the barrel in the next outside area, and go in and chit chat with the cap'n.

5. Give said ring to Fargoth the Bosmer. Your disposition with Arrille will increase drastically (Well worth it)

6. Pawn everything you just got to arrille. Buy one scroll of unhinging, and nothing more.

7. Backtrack to the cap'ns door but dont go in. Look behind you and unhinge that door (excise warehouse). Pay the guard that chases you 5 measly gold.

8. Stay on the bottom floor at all times (and the spiral starcase near all the goodies, there are more uptop)

9. Clear this place out. Watch for the guards. There is plenty of free armor and weapons, moon sugar, you name it, its probably there.

10. Head to the balmora mages guild and speak to the khajiit at the desk on the bottom floor. She's the only person i know that buys moon sugar and skooma. Bribe her disposition with 10 gold till you get near 100. It'll be worth it. Sell all your moon sugar and skooma to her. You'll probably need to wait a day or two for her to get more money.

11. Head back to Arrille. Pawn all of your unwanteds to him. Keep the change. You should have 1000-2000 gold, maybe more.

12. Use your new found wealth at your leisure. My main character has over 500k, and it all started with this wonderful process.

Psi_RedEye22 · Post by **Psi_RedEye22** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:34 am

Few more suggestions:

-Don't jump around in the mages guild in balmora. Odd floor issues cause your character to fall through the level and die. (In Vivec it's the same deal, but it only happens during loading screens going between cantons, and you just fall into the water, not die)

-Pick Strength as a main attribute in this scenario. It helps you carry everything.

-Don't buy your armor or weapons from Arrille. Buy it from the armorer in Balmora. (Across from guild halls) You'll be kicking yourself when you see the superior selection.

-My personal suggestion is to not keep anything in the warehouse you raid, as it is stolen goods and will be confiscated if not removed before you get caught. Buy your inexpensive armor from somewhere (see above tip)

-Do the Procesus Vitellis (or whatever the hell his name is) quest, and Fargoth's hiding place for some quick cash. If you need locations PM me.

-EXCELLENT TIP: Join the balmora mages guild no matter what!

See Ajira for a job. Do the first job (head to seyda neen, the mushrooms you need are on the trees around there.)

The second job has you putting a fake soul gem in a desk. The funny thing is the rest of the gems where you place the fake one (upstairs balmora mages guild) are completely exposed. Take all of them. Sell them, use them, do whatever. One is worth 60k.

Never touch the mages guild again. They have crappy membership benefits. =P

Psi_RedEye22 · Post by **Psi_RedEye22** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:55 am

Couple more tips

-If you have excess equipment, pick a vendor, and use his bedroom as a hideout. Fill his extra baskets and drawers with your useful equipment (I personally use the balmora armorer) After caius leaves, relocate your operation. His house is your house now, and it is useful beyond heck.

-Always improve disposition to 100 before bartering in expensive goods.

-Common outfits improve commoner disposition.

-Expensive or above improve noble disposition

-Niether work on guards

-Both work on merchants, with the right accessories.

-Speaking of merchants, raid their unguarded bedrooms. Easy money. Just don't sell it back to who you stole it from. Easy bounty.

Aaron Kasra · Post by **Aaron Kasra** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:12 am

If you do steal the gems from the Balmora mages guild, don't ever approach that mage for bartering or enchantment jobs. If she sees any gems in your possession, she'll attack, drawing any other mages who overhear the fight into it. If you kill the head of that guild, there's no way to complete the quest.

Another way to make money, if you have the official expansion packs, is to go to Mournhold and try to find the entrance to the Dark Brotherhood hideout. DB operatives will start trickling out a few at a time to take them on. Their armor is excellent light armor and worth a ton a cash. You should already have one set of their armor from the first DB agent that attacked you.

Don't stick around too long; you're too weak and inexperienced to take them all on and they just keep coming a few at a time. Be pleased if you manage to kill one, two or three of them then get the heck out.

Pick alchemy as a major or minor specialty. You won't make much money as a noobie alchemist, but eventually you can rack up tons of cash and make yourself some extremely effective lightweight potions, and it makes sense to start the process early. Early in the game find someone who'll teach you alchemy and take lessons until it starts feeling too expensive to you (for me that's after 20 to 30 levels). Then start brewing potions with your cheaper reagents. Get some grandmaster alchemy tools (the independent alchemist in upper Balmora has a set for sale (or for grabs). When you're alchemy skill is up around 40 you're pretty safe to start making potions with your high-dollar reagents. When it's up to 60 you know all the possible affects of all reagents and you can start making some decent multi-effect potions. Even wholly negative potions (those that drain health, fatique, attributes; poisons, paralyzers, etc) sell for good money.

Psi_RedEye22 · Post by **Psi_RedEye22** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:34 am

Ah yes, another thing about Tribunal: Save raw glass/ebony you find. There is a man who can craft you armor from it, for cheap.

HiRo11er · Post by **HiRo11er** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:25 pm

there are tons of simple things that can be done in the early stages of the game to help a n00b out...

First off, don't worry about anything in seyda neen until later. You'll have plenty of time. Silt strider -> Balmora, mages guild -> caldera, & run north/northeast until you find pemenie. Follow her southwest to gnaar mok or until she bumps into a cliff racer & dies, whatever suits you best. Get 4-5 potions of resist magicka fram nalcarya in balmora & equip the boots of blinding speed she gives you.

Then, go southwest of ald velothi near khuul & kill the nearly invisible guy camping out by the rockwall about 20 yards north of a woman standing by a pond. Take the amulet of shadows & go to the lower levels of the tower of dusk in ghostfence & steal the mounds of very expensive, very efficient glass armor that lies around, & sell whatever you don't need to the talking mudcrab merchant whose location can be found with about 30 seconds of handy internet searching...

This should take you about an hour of real time, & it should leave you with tens of thousands of septims, some nice armor, super speed that will quickly become an absolute must for your game once you realize how damn slow you are when you're not wearing the BoBS, as well as an amulet that lets you steal pretty much anything, anywhere. After that, Vvardenfell is trembling at your feet, and you're free to do whatever tickles your pickle.

Game, set & match...

Psi_RedEye22 · Post by **Psi_RedEye22** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:32 pm

I was trying to go for the non-godlike angle for money

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Boots of blinding speed though...I've never been able to actually SEE with them on. =P

HiRo11er · Post by **HiRo11er** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:38 pm

All right, I know it's slightly cheesy, but hey... I try to not go overboard, but it seems like in this game you're either dead broke picking up muck or kwama cuttle to sell for cash, or you're rolling in cash up to your eyeballs... It's kind of hard to find a middle ground, I think.

POSSIBLE SPOILER

About the boots, a few potions of resist magicka will stop the blindness, but leave your vision!

There is also a light cuirass in a cabinet in tower of tel fyr in tel fyr that grants 60% magicka resistance CE. Make sure you can open a 100 lock though!

Psi_RedEye22 · Post by **Psi_RedEye22** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:13 am

Actually, the 100 lock opening isnt necessary. I do believe that is the prize for running your ass off treasure hunting in tel fyr (last key you get).

Aaron Kasra · Post by **Aaron Kasra** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:16 am

[QUOTE=HiRo11er]...go southwest of ald velothi near khuul & kill the nearly invisible guy camping out by the rockwall about 20 yards north of a woman standing by a pond. Take the amulet of shadows ...

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Amen to that! That's the single most used enchanted thing in my XBox character's kit.

And don't feel bad about killing the guy; he's there to waylay and murder travelers.

beornica · Post by **beornica** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:48 am

Make sure you go to see Caius Cosades right away when you get to Balmora, before you're level 3. You can get an extra $200 from him, plus if you skip around to the blades trainers, they'll take pity on your poverty and give you a few things to sell. It's not not quite a match for the other tips, but psi covered everything I always do!

Psi_RedEye22 · Post by **Psi_RedEye22** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:50 am

I don't recommend simply going to the amulet of shadows holder right when you start, it's a tougher fight than it seems.