baal's blood

lipe · Post by **lipe** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 1:31 pm

you think you wil still play as someone that have the baal blood or something like tha?it should be cool to fight cyric..

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 1:37 pm

Each to his or her own, but it's been my experience that beyond a certain point the sheer number of levels, skills, spells and items becomes ridiculous. The game stops being an RPG, and turns into a "whose nuclear bomb is bigger?" I would neither purchase nor play a BG game in which you were a full god going up against another full god. There's no strategy there, just a bunch of special effects.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 1:40 pm

I agree with Fable on this one.
Playing a Bhaal spawn - or even the new Lord of Murder would be a seriously destructive aspect of a possible BG3.
The "Saga" of the Bhaalspawn ended in BG2:ToB, and I think it would be best left there.

As Fable says - to play as a God vs. another God would requier so high level characters and abilities that ... well - Fable said it

And playing as somebody else with Bhaals blood in them would be rather dull... seeing as we kinda knows what happens with (all of??) the spawn.
We know what happens with the most powerful Bhaal-spawn (ourselves in BG2:ToB), so there is little meat to pick on spinning that story.

Skuld · Post by **Skuld** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 1:58 pm

I would certainly hope not, the Bhaalspawn story is over. And to put out another game using the same premise would be completely lacking in originality and a real letdown to all the people who really want this game. And I don't think being a god fighting another god would be all that fun. What would you do between your mini clashes of the titans? Walk around villages smiting people because you're a lord of murder?

Coot · Post by **Coot** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 3:27 am

Although I'd like to keep the Bhaal storyline where it is (finished) the idea of playing as a God would not necessarily suck. The game wouldn't have to take place in Faerun, it could be in the realm(s) of the Gods. Who knows what's out there? What the rules of survival are? I figure there would be no longswords and boots of speed and hobgoblins.

me0w · Post by **me0w** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 3:43 am

Only way I can really comprehend them keeping it all Baal spawn is if they have another one of those ages when all the gods return back as men, or maybe your cursed some how by some big baddie for doing too much raw **** to the peoples, so lose your god powers, although, we would be like levl 35's by the end and ****, god, I just dunno how its possible, ever idea just doesn't work.

The Jester · Post by **The Jester** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 5:31 pm

Maybe MeOw idea is not stupid.Lets say a big baddy curse the Bhaalspawn(you), so you lose all your powers.This baddy should be some kind of a arch-devil.What about Asmodeus taking the Bhaalspawn powers to enslave Faerun.Your character wouldn't be a crazy 35th character.What about, 15 at the beggining.

These are only suggestions!

-You will suffer, you will all suffer!-Joneleth Irenicus

Skuld · Post by **Skuld** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 5:46 pm

Personally I don't think it's as much fun starting as a higher level character. BGII was an acceptable level due to storyline and continuity. There's no reason whatsoever that I can think of for BGIII to start at anything aside from level 1.

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:49 pm

And low leveling is a lot of fun, to boot.

Skuld · Post by **Skuld** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 8:36 pm

It gives you a chance to watch your character grow. Always a good thing.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:24 pm

It's the one area--low level development--that I think BG1 had in all respects over BG2.

Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:07 am

I don't really mind level progressions (though as I remember BG I was so difficult at the beginning, I almost gave up...), b/c as I experienced enemies usually matched my powers (well, not when I was level 30, that's true). Anyway, if I'm not a goddess, that makes the game more challenge, if I am, that makes it more fun

What I really worry about is the storyline. I have never ever seen another game that had such a fantastic story behind as BG II. It is unbeatable. NWN's story was such a disappointment for me!

So this is what I'm really looking forward to: a new game with a similarly detailed background story, and with similarly interactive and funny characters. I wouldn't mind if the scenes took place in the same land, too! I mean it would be nice to enter Athkatla again, visit the De'Arnise hold, and so on

I have already given up my hopes, though... BG II was such a wonderful, professional work that I can't imagine anyone doing better.

iamweaver · Post by **iamweaver** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 9:39 am

If you were particularly fascinated by the BG2 story line, Brynn, you might want to rummage around a bit on the Planescape:Torment forum - another game that used the Infinity game engine.

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:25 pm

[QUOTE=iamweaver]If you were particularly fascinated by the BG2 story line, Brynn, you might want to rummage around a bit on the Planescape:Torment forum - another game that used the Infinity game engine.[/QUOTE]

Beat me to it (and probably several others of us that were thinking the same thing).

Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:18 am

[QUOTE=iamweaver]If you were particularly fascinated by the BG2 story line, Brynn, you might want to rummage around a bit on the Planescape:Torment forum - another game that used the Infinity game engine.[/QUOTE]

Good tip, thanks!

Dueller · Post by **Dueller** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:39 pm

The only problem with playing BG3 as a god is that you may not have chosen that option at the end of ToB. Playing as another Bhaalspawn is out, since all of Bhaal's taint was removed (ie. everyone either died or gave up their Bhaalness). Although why is it that Imoen could be resurrected if she died? I thought Bhaalspawn turned to dust as their essence returned to the pools?

That said, going up against Cyric and travelling to places like Sigil would be very cool.

Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:56 am

Yes, you might have chosen to remain a mortal (just like I did).

Anyway, the story can go like your past follows you and you can't deal with a normal, quiet life no matter what you chose. You feel that the road you left behind is still calling you, and the desire to travel and fight just cannot be put aside inside your heart. So, you pull yourself together again and heed the call for another battle, more difficult and more important that even the previous one that you thought had been the last battle of your life. Such is the karma of an adventurer

rebel3_6_1 · Post by **rebel3_6_1** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:16 am

I ask you, what could possibly be more difficult than fighting the High Priestess of Bhaal who intends to claim his power and is able to summon powerful demons to aid her? There's just gotta be a certain point where getting any stronger is just ridiculous, and I think TOB passed that point. How are you going to improve your weapons? Upgrade the Carsomyr to +17 with some magic stone? C'mon guys. It needs to start a new quest.

Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:32 am

OK, I was just wondering...

Skuld · Post by **Skuld** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:35 am

Ths problems with these scenarios is that you'd be starting at like level 30, or even if it wasn't that high, you'd still be starting at some ridiculously high level. That simply would just be not fun, and has been stated in another thread PC Gamer has stated that BGIII will take place before the BG saga therefore eliminating this ridiculous concept of continuing where we left off and starting with a fresh character from level 1.